Cotto fan here, but let's be honest!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Spitbucket, Jul 27, 2008.


  1. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    Margaritto never changes the way he fights,this is what he did when he fought Williams.Problem is Cotto was giving his best shorts and they suck all the energy out of anyone.If he had boxed without power punching he could have been on his bike all night winning every round.

    Williams showed us all how Margaritto can be beaten.Dont trade power punches,thats what Margaritto willbe looking for.His power is underrated but he can pack a punch.His best weapon is taking anyone's best shorts and anyone would be discouraged.Floyd can box Margaritto's ears off and riding his bike all night.He can be so ellusive and not even get caught on the ropes.

    Anyone who fights Margaritto will need to be superfit,maintain the rate from beginning to end like Williams
     
  2. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Cotto is not a brawler. I don't blame him for using that paticular game plan last night. He boxed because he knew he couldn't trade with him. Forget coming in just to go out on your shield, he's the one in there and taking a pounding, it's about trying to fight smart and I believe he did that until Margo's pressure was starting to catch up to him. Big props to Cotto, he showed some versatility in his game and tried to use something different in order to try and win this paticular fight. The fight would have been over sooner if Cotto stood his ground. I'm not a Cotto fan but I appreciate the performance last night.
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Thats because he was getting punched. That normally slows down a fighter..

    Cotto is a great fighter. His problem is he wasnt busy enough. In order to beat Margarito you MUST throw tons of leather. Cotto isnt a volume puncher. His a guy who puts alot on his punches and uses educated pressure. Unfortunately he was the one under pressure as Antonio simply walked him down much the same way he walked down Cintron. This doesnt make Antonio a great fighter. Antonio is a very good fighter but his limited. He fights one way and thats to walk forward and throw punches. It certainly was a great result for him but Paul Williams has already exposed his limitations. PBF would have boxed him to an easy UD if they`d fought much the same way he did to Oscar.Thats not to take anything away from Margo who is a very one dimensional fighter. But that one dimension he has does work for him thanks to his will heart and sturdy chin.
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Excellent post and exactly the way i see it. Margarito can be easily outboxed by the best box punchers at welter. I believe even the current version of Oscar would be able to beat him via a close UD. Margarito simply isnt an intelligient fighter. He has one dimension that works perfectly against fighters like Cintron and Cotto.
     
  5. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Totally agree Spitbucket:good

    Was thinking about this today, and going over in my head what would have happened if Cotto had met him centre ring and duked it out. It could, like you mentioned, led to a earlier stoppage for Margarito, but there is also the scenario were Cotto forces Margarito onto the backfoot (if he could - all hypothesis on my part) with his pinpoint accurate bombs. Margarito on the backfoot is a much diminished foe.

    I also was hoping for a Cotto victory beforehand (all my vcash is gone), but changed my view as the fight went on. I was cheering for Margo from the middle to the end rounds. The commentators got it spot on: they said that earlier in the fight Cotto was backing off and setting traps for Margarito, but by the end he was just running.

    I hope Cotto can come back from this, but his durability has to be questioned. He had terrible trouble with N'dou down at LWW, who is a smaller and less accurate puncher than Margarito.

    In the end it might just come down to styles. Ali always had problems with Norton; maybe Cotto will always have problems with fighters in the N'dou/Margarito mould.

    Cotto has been good for the sport. I wish him well.
     
  6. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    I'm a Delahoya fan, but what makes you think he can outbox Margo for 12 rounds? Oscar has shown PLENTY of times in the past that he get's tired. Oscar would have fits with Margo. And Margo IS a great fighter, you mean to tell me after what he did last night you don't label him a great fighter? So Cotto was beaten by an average guy? That's outrageous:roll:
     
  7. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    I don't know, I truly believe that that was the best plan for Cotto. To move and pick his shots accurately and with power. He was exceptionally well up until the mid rounds when Margo's intense pressure and chin just caught up to him.

    I seriously think trading blows with Margarito would've been the biggest mistake he would've done and he would've got knocked out way earlier. A lot of you keep saying that Cotto was backing Margo up when he would go to war with him, which is true, but the fact is Margo was never hurt in any of those exchanges. You might go mix it up with someone and back him up, but what if the guy isn't hurt from your punches? What're you gonna do? You guys remember in the 9th or 10th round when Cotto was on the ropes and unleashed one of his fluid but very strong combinations on Tony but Tony answered back with a monstrous right hand in the end which sent Miguel back? That was despite Cotto landing 4 or 5 clean hard FLUSH shots on Margo, yet Margo just took it ALL like it was nothing and still easily had enough strength to throw ONE punch which sent Cotto back up instead.

    That's what I feel would happen to Cotto often if he had opted to go to war with Margo. For every 4 or 5 hard shots Cotto would land on an unflinching Margo, he would recieve one that would hurt him alot(you see how, even blocking Margo's shots with his gloves, would still hurt Cotto). In the end, while Cotto might "win" the exchanges due to more punches thrown and connected, Margo would be the one with the much harder and more telling blows. Who's gonna be affected by that as the fight goes by?
     
  8. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i wont say that he ran but he boxed beautifully he gave angles he landed great combos it was just margaritos style with the relentless pressure
     
  9. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto started his bike from the get go and was pedaling at round 6 and crashed his bike in round 9 thats when Marg broke his will.
     
  10. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto had the right plan but he have holes in his defense and lack of upper body movement.
     
  11. Marcus

    Marcus Boxing Junkie banned

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    He ran, but that was his plan, and he was doing well for the first 5 rounds.

    I think Margarito ran more, straight at Cotto!!! :deal


    ooo it feels good to be a Margarito fan, i couldnt imagine what Cotto fans must be thinking, maybe which bangwagon should i to jump on next :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    You don't want this to turn into a hate thread but you say something like that ?? If that's not hate I don't know what is ..Cotto is a boxer not a brawler ...What do u expect from a boxer to all of a sudden become a brawler ?? The man was right in front of Margarito all night but he ran ?? Come on man that's hate plain and simple ..I don't think its with malice but the man did everything but ran ..
     
  13. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    I know insteed of being on the ropes all the time.
     
  14. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    yes and that because he was starting to hurt, those punches from margarito even if they weren't clean and most of them block still hurts cotto. Cotto is a great boxer, but he is fragile so he needs to be a defensive fighter against guys like margarito.

    Why do we think cotto was a full offensive fighter when he was facing guys like corley, torres he was naturally the aggressor its because he knows he can take them out.
     
  15. Spitbucket

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