Cotto fighting at 154 is a terrible idea. He should stay at 147 or retire.

What an insecure, infantile little douchebag you are.

Anyone who had seen Jeff Lacy fight Omar Sheika knew that Calzaghe would tan that ass. Only ignorant homeboy US media writers thought Lacy would win that fight. Calzaghe was more experienced, much faster, had better skills, and the fight was in his backyard. Many, many people tipped that win.

Anyone who had followed the career of Bernard Hopkins knew that it was a distinct possibility he could lose to Taylor. It was clear in the De La Hoya fight that B-Hop had slowed down and was not the same aggressive executioner that he had been 3 years earlier vs Trinidad. B-Hop was 40 when he fought Taylor, and Taylor was undefeated, a very big mw, with great speed and a good jab. It was inevitable Hopkins would lose at some point, and even though he did actually win that fight, it was no great shock that Taylor emerged with the belts.

Again, so many many people tipped this result. DLH couldn't stop, drop, or even dominate/punish Steve Forbes, and if you compare that to the destructive form he showed in dispatching the much bigger Mayorga two fights earlier, it was clear Oscar was in physical decline. Pac had the speed to beat Oscar, it was still a surprise how it went down, but many people forecast it.


And that's it? That's your credentials for proclaiming yourself a predictions guru? I'm guessing you're about 15 years old. None of those predictions are remotely impressive, countless people picked them as well. If you had predicted Buster Douglas would dominate Tyson before that fight, then maybe that would be justification to go around blowing your own trumpet, but those three predictions were made by many on here and none of them are evidence of a great boxing mind. Big-headed little arsehole.

No, no and no. Cotto does not possess exactly what is needed to beat Mayweather. Far from it. There is no proven blueprint for how to beat Floyd Mayweather as yet. Castillo did beat him first time out by utilizing pressure and bodywork, but a great jab was not part of his arsenal, and Floyd beat him in the rematch anyway, so the 'blueprint' failed second time out.

Shane Mosley fights in a completely different style to Miguel Cotto, and he has a far better chance of beating Floyd. Manny Pacquiao fights in a completely different style to Miguel Cotto, and he has a far better chance of beating Floyd. There is no blueprint as yet, just now it's about the quality of fighter not his style. Cotto is far, far too easy to hit to have a hope in hell against Mayweather. And he doesn't have a great jab either, his jab is pretty good not great, but with a 5-inch reach deficit there is no way he is having success with it against Floyd. Throw in Floyd's own good jab, superior speed, and superior reflexes, and Cotto has no hope in the jab stakes. Your analysis is dire.

No, he doesn't. Mayweather and Cotto are two completely different levels of fighter. Floyd would beat him 10 times out of 10, no doubt. Floyd is too fast, too clever, too accurate and too skilled for someone like Miguel Cotto.

It's not all styles. Styles are important, but they're not everything. If they are everything, then Ricky Hatton should have given Floyd Mayweather a much harder fight than he did. Hatton fought in a similar style to Jose Luis Castillo, but Castillo gave Floyd nightmares, whereas Floyd dominated and stopped Ricky. Quality levels are also important. Ricky had no defence and a dodgy chin, much like Miguel Cotto. Those two guys do not possess the necessary well-rounded qualities to compete with someone like Mayweather. They may have what appears like the right offensive style and attributes, but these are irrelevant when they have such glaring flaws in their games.

You should be paying me for this education.

You are 15.

What is it about this statement made by me in the opening post of this thread tells you that I have a strong enough conviction about Cotto-Foreman to make a lifetime avatar bet over it:

Cotto is a better fighter, but I wouldn't be surprised if Foreman beats him. Wouldn't be surprised. Does that sound like I am certain Foreman wins? ****ing ******. I'll happily make an avatar bet with a semen receptacle like you when I truly believe in a result, I won't be strong-armed into one by a child like you who is desperately trying to forge a reputation for himself as a genius. Your analyses on this thread suck ass, you have impressed no-one, and you have failed to bait me into an avatar bet.

With reference to the red parts of this shockingly shite post:

- "boxing skills didn't beat Cotto"
It's this kind of remark that proves you don't know what you're talking about. Defence is a part of boxing skills ****face. Miguel Cotto could easily have got through the Margarito fight and edged the points decision even with Margo's loaded gloves if he knew how to defend himself. Boxing skills did beat Cotto - his own (lack of). He kept jogging round the ring instead of turning Margarito and trying to keep the fight in the centre of the ring as much as possible, he kept allowing Margo to stand right on his chest and tee off on him on the ropes instead of holding when Margo got close, and so he ran out of gas and eventually crumbled because his shockingly bad defending up close meant he ate literally hundreds of uppercuts all night.

- "Floyd can't outslug him"
Yes, he could. Floyd absolutely raped Hatton on the inside in their fight, and he would achieve similar against Cotto, because Cotto (like Hatton) can't defend. Also, at 147 Cotto doesn't have the power to really hurt Mayweather, because whenever Cotto got Manny on the ropes, his punches had no effect whatsoever. Cotto failed to hurt Mosley, Manny, Margarito or Clottey, and Mayweather's punch resistance is of a comparable level. If you look at round 11 of the 1st Castillo fight and numerous points in the Hatton fight, Mayweather is very good on the inside against guys that know how to fight there (he annihilated Philip N'Dou on the inside as well, but N'Dou was shite). Floyd is too fast, too accurate, too slick for Miguel Cotto on the inside. He would outland Cotto while not taking much punishment in return. When Cotto hits him to the body, Floyd hits him to the head. The headshots would be more eye-catching to the judges, but considering Cotto's punch resistance he would probably get stopped late anyway on accumulation.

- "Hatton gave Floyd problems"
Here's a tip: don't take horrible amounts of intravenous drugs before you watch boxing.

- "in fact a lot more so than Hatton"
Hatton is 5'7" with a 65" reach, Cotto is 5'7" with a 67" reach. Hatton weighed in at 152lbs on fightnight for a light-welter fight vs Manny, so I assume he has weighed even more than that for welterweight fights. Cotto looked overweight against Urkal at welter, and that was him at 158-159 on fightnight, his biggest ever. I'm sure I read somewhere he is regularly 152-156 on fightnight at welter. A lot bigger than Hatton? The facts suggest otherwise. Cotto is very slightly bigger and heavier - same height, 2 inches in reach, and maybe a couple of pounds on fightnights. Is that tiny margin going to be enough to make a difference against someone as skilled as Floyd? ****ing obviously not.

Class dismissed.

 

You shirked out of addressing my points one-by-one because you know you will lose this argument. But I'll pick through your shitty little post again.

What a teenage titwank you are. So in other words you have been wrong, but you "weren't sure" of the result, so that doesn't count in your 'wrong' column? Grow up you teenage turd.

I backed Calzaghe to beat Lacy, I didn't have a strong opinion on Hopkins-Taylor either way because I knew Hopkins was the superior fighter but was starting to slip, and I called Pac-DLH wrong, but I can admit that because I'm a man and not a snivelling teenager kicking about a forum saying "I'm amazing at predictions, like me, respect me, say to people I'm great". I have called fights wrong in the past, sure I have, but I don't go round tooting my own horn, so I'm fine with that.

Your claim of infallibility is absolute dog**** though, because your opinion on Cotto-Mayweather is, to any knowledgable fan, laughably ill-informed.

Because I don't have a strong conviction on how the fight will go, same as I didn't on Hopkins-Taylor. If I have a strong belief in how a fight will go, I call it. I would have a very, very strong belief in a Cotto-Mayweather fight, for instance. If I don't have a strong conviction on how a fight will go, I'm not going to go out and stick £500 on it or start making lifetime ban bets, why would I? That's ******ed.

This doesn't even make sense - you don't know me. I have called fights with absolute certainty in the past. I called Pac-Cotto exactly right. Check my past threads and see. Pac by late TKO. If I have a strong belief, I call it. If I don't, I won't.

Well, would you rather I say something that I do not believe just to satisfy a wart like you? I'm not going to say "Foreman will 100% beat Cotto", like I said "Pac will 100% beat Cotto", if I'm genuinely not 100% sure that Foreman will. I said I wouldn't be surprised if Foreman beats him, and I won't. I think a Foreman UD is a distinct possibility.

I'm calling you 15 because you're wanking over your own greatness, and only kids behave that way. I have more credibility than you because I know more about boxing than you and I write analysis better than you, the age thing doesn't come into it. "Lol".

Who said they did? :huh

Margo beat Cotto because Cotto has a weak skillset. He does not know how to defend himself. He allowed Margo to crash uppercuts off his face until he had nothing left.

I disagree. Many people are waaay overstating how well Cotto was doing in the early stages of that fight. He landed a few jabs, to me that doesn't mean he was outboxing Manny. Cotto edged the 1st round, Manny the 2nd, and from then on it was all Manny. Yes, Cotto did some neat work in the 1st four rounds, but so did Manny, he was not clearly outboxing Manny at any point.

Yes it was. The punch that effectively decided the result was the punch for the 2nd knockdown. Cotto never recovered from that punch, he was a dead man walking after it. That punch was pure skill, it was accurate, hard, fast, and slipped in so that Cotto didn't even see it. Manny's skill was the difference. Cotto did not connect with any such clever or accurate shots.

Awkwardness?? Yes, you are indeed a boxing Zen Master! atsch

What an uncultured child like you calls "awkwardness" is really a southpaw with good footwork and movement. To call it "awkward" simply means you don't know what you're looking at. Pac doesn't fight the way he does now because of a natural awkwardness, like Antwun Echols did, he fights that way because he and Roach have perfected that style. He is a southpaw, but now Roach has drilled into him to use his right and vary his shots. Roach has also worked with him to improve his footwork and movement, which makes him more elusive. This style set-up makes him very difficult for other fighters to deal with, but it is very much a contrived style, a skill, it's not "his awkwardness" FFS!

To say "it's not Pac's skill it's his awkwardness" is like saying "it wasn't Roy Jones's speed and power that made him great, it was his weirdness".

Pathetic.

Floyd does not have great one-shot power at 147, but he does have enough power to drop Cotto because Cotto's defence is tailor-made for him.

Cotto has been badly hurt by guys like Torres, Judah, Corley, he does not have great punch resistance. The punches that get you are the ones you don't see. Every time Cotto comes in on Floyd is an opportunity for a fast, sharp, hard counter to the head, Cotto is definitely not seeing or stopping Floyd connecting whenever Floyd wants. Add up all those shots over 8, 9 rounds, and Floyd could easily drop a tiring Cotto, no doubt about it whatsoever.

Where did I say he wasn't you silly *****?

Show me where I said it?

Cotto is bigger and stronger than Hatton. He is the same height as Hatton, tiny advantage in reach, and weighs a couple of pounds more on fightnight, as I have already explained to you.

Cotto looked the physically weaker man against Margarito, Mosley, Pacquiao and Clottey. He may be stronger than Hatton, but he is not a particularly physically strong welterweight.

Is Cotto's slight size advantage over Hatton and his strength advantage over Hatton going to make a difference against Mayweather? Absolutely not.

I've always said Cotto would definitely beat Hatton. I have no idea what relevance this has to this discussion whatsoever though.

Again, I don't see the relevance or point of this comment. Castillo's 'blueprint' to beat Floyd failed in the rematch, so there is no blueprint. Hatton used a similar style and failed as well. Cotto fights similarly to both, but has a better jab. But his jab would not be effective against Floyd Mayweather because Mayweather has a strong jab of his own, has a longer reach, and is faster and has faster reflexes. Mayweather beat Castillo, he beat Hatton, and he'd beat Cotto. What part of my points do you not understand?

Compared to someone who thinks Cotto would have a 'damn good' chance against Mayweather, I'm not a pseudo-expert, I am a full-blown expert par excellence. :good

Whenever we are on opposite sides of a divide we both feel strongly on, I'll bet you anything you like, and I'll school your ass into the bargain just like I've done on this thread twice now :good:good:good

 

Because real lightmiddles weigh 160-165 on fightnight. Some probably even more than that.