Cotto game plan?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by los507, Aug 6, 2009.


  1. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been thinking the same thing, you know Arum doesn't want Pac to lose, so if it's close at all Pac's gonna get the decision.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Cotto will fight the way he usually fights, anyone expecting him to show major improvements is an idiot, can't change that in a few months after fighting the way he did for years.

    Defense will be his biggest problem and Pac will take advantage of it all night with his insane speed/power/activity.
     
  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    He was joking lol. But yup it was a shitty ppv. But Cotto should have been in the main event of the last fight cause he's the bigger draw then Pavlik.
     
  4. luciuslim

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    that may may be true but i think outboxing manny is really the only shot cotto has, if he trys to trade shots then mannys hands speed will dominate. also cotto may be a natural welter but hes not really a one punch knockout artist, and manny is the proof is in his last fight.
     
  5. DatBo215

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    Jab, apply pressure, and go to the body early an often. I see a lot of people think if Cotto comes out and bangs with Manny he will likely get KO'd. I think they are underestimating Cotto's chin and buying into Manny dismantling Hatton a little too much. Question I have is, what happens if Manny comes out and hits Cotto clean with a hard shot and Cotto keeps coming forward, much like he did in the early part of the Mosley fight and the Judah fight? Do you think Manny effectively boxes his way to a decision victory keeping Cotto off of him?
     
  6. mgdb26

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    I agree people are underestimating Cotto's chin, if they trade I think Cotto might have the advantage because he can take Pac's best shots, I don't think Pac can take his.
     
  7. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no ones asking cotto to reinvent himsef, just to take the things he dose well and highlight them, his super stiff jab, his great foot movement and to pick the spots to be aggresive intellegently. these are all things cotto has always done the only thing i would add to his game is an ability to clinch.
     
  8. los507

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    Haven't really seen anyone point out specific weaknesses of Pac. For example, Cotto has a tendency of coming in with his head down, leaving him open for uppercuts. Can anyone point out something simliar with pac. I like the post about clinching though (mgdb26). I think that could be effective.
     
  9. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Those saying Cotto has to clinch are pretty delusional. What makes you think Cotto will all of a sudden begin to clinch when he's never done so before? Even if he did try to clinch, you think Pacquiao will get involved in that game? Hell no, timing kills speed - all Cotto has to do is use the jab to set up the right hand which Marquez was able to do.
     
  10. los507

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    I agree cotto has holes in his defense, but i dont think people expect him to make major changes for this fight. Maybe just work on tighting up his defense a bit (don't get hit so much), and utilize his stiff jabs, his precise timing, and his attack to the body. And as someone pointed out, clinching a bit may be effective.
     
  11. luciuslim

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    we may all be deciving ourselves a bit in thinking that manny is the clear favorite his last three opponents were not realy technicians oscar was supposed to be but he showed up dry. cotto is a very good but underestimated technician and manny has had problems with technicians in the past. JJM
     
  12. 4life

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    And exactly how did that work out for ricky hatton ???? yeah!! I, by no means, think hatton and cotto is on the same level but pac's handspeed, footwork and RIGHT HAND will be to much to overcome from the get go. I dont see cotto landing more on the head than pac, therefore GO TO THE BODY!!! hit pac where it hurts. Pac will need to trade those stick training for three trunks cause cotto is a master body puncher. It amases me that people already forgot cotto HAVE the best left hook ( well, IMO ) to the body pre-margo, what makes you think he cant do it to pac. AND IM A BIG PAC FAN.
     
  13. Scar

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    Don't think he will clinch at all to be honest, he didn't do so to protect his self from his first loss so I don't think he will in this one.

    Cotto needs to position his self to land affective blows and Pacquiao constantly throws and moves, he's not going to stand still for Cotto and I don't think he will allow Cotto to bully him to the ropes. Even if he does, Pac will be throwing those KO power hooks as he's backing off.

    I don't know what Cotto plans to do or what he thinks he MAY be able to do, I just don't see this fight going good for him based on styles.

    Cotto doesn't have enough experience with southpaw fighters, his fight with Judah is one worth mentioning and he was rocked/hurt in the opening bell of that fight.

    Cotto needs to STOP kneeling down wide open and welcoming uppercuts, if Pac takes advantage of that he can finish him off early. I don't think Cotto will be able to improve/stop that either, he has been doing it all his career. 3 months of training won't change that.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    Cotto's gameplan should start at the weigh in by him coming in at 147 to gain the mental edge. Then on fight night he should weigh no less than 159. He needs to let Pac know from the opening bell that he's in with a 100% WW and that he's the bigger stronger man here. He needs to rough Pac up foul if neccessary and throw Pac off his gameplan. He needs to establish his jab early and not abandon his body attack early on in the fight. He needs to clinch Pac screw that machismo **** he needs to grab Pac beat him up on the inside from the clinch and go to the body while there. Lastly he can't retreat to the ropes when under distress. If he does this and he has a great chance of pulling off a win.
     
  15. Pimp C

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    He better ****ing start or he'll lose this fight. Clinching is one very important key to beat Pac. As he's not a great inside fighter and Cotto is the bigger stronger man.