Cotto: I'm fighting Money May because they treated us better than Poochiao's team

What would you say if he was to lose to Cotto? Would you still say Cotto is past it, or will you have a different opinion?

 

i think there was more to it than that. go back and watch very closely. floyd manned up after he got hit and took the fight to shane. he was catching shane very cleanly and was putting everything on his shots as he came forward. shane didn't wanna get stopped so he stopped throwing. once he stopped throwing floyd turned that in to his kind of fight. shane went to throwing less punches...one at a time basically...and floyd did what he does best, he made him miss and made him pay. it's kind of hard to pull the trigger when ur missing and getting hit clean every time u do.

 

I agree but I also believe it had to do with Shane not being able to pull the trigger anymore, add to the fact that SHANE HAS NO JAB and always had trouble with techincal fighters, it was gonna an easy night for Floyd. Mosley also wasn't as fast as he used to be either and fighters like him will always lose to other fighters that can match his speed or have a little more.

 

if floyd losses to cotto, cotto is still past it. you cannot bring back your prime years but cotto's stock would rise much higher than he was back in 2008.

 

cotto isn't as shot as everyone is saying.

in the fight with margarito 1...sure he was taking a beating...but he went to a knee on his own. he wasn't put down. he was very coherent and was still defending himself. his corner threw in the towel and he was more busted up than hurt or dazed. ppl called him a quitter or a coward...but imo i thought he was very intelligent because he lived to fight another day.

in the fight with pac...same deal. pac got the better of him in some exchanges and dropped him, but he got up and made adjustments. pac didn't do much of anything after that. i thought the stoppage was bull**** and he was not hurt at all at the point it was stopped. again...he lived to fight another day.

hatton was out cold when he was beat by pac. floyd started it...pac finished it. hatton is shot/done.

margarito actually took a beating in the first fight with cotto and the argument could be made that he suffered more damage than cotto because he was not the same after that fight. i thought cotto softened him up for shane. shane put him in the coffin...and pac put the nails in the coffin. cotto buried him. margarito is shot/done.

shane...he's old, but even he isn't shot or done. he's shopworn.

 

But it doesn't make sense what your saying because he has to be at HIS BEST in order to beat Floyd. So if he beats him, than how can he be past it? :huh

 

so you're not a ***** but instead is a hater?

how would you claim that pac is just all smokes and mirrors when he has fought barrera-marquez-morales (at or near their prime weights) in a span of just 16 months? also pac has fought an elite WW in cotto in just his 2nd year at the weight while floyd took 4 or 5 years to fight one in mosley?

***** test: who has the better resume, pacquiao or floyd?

 

i think u said best in the previous sentence. he has trouble with technical (or technically superior) fighters. he's just as fast...but because his mechanics are off on what he does (i.e his jab) he gets beat to the punch and out boxed. i actually think cotto was slower than him but because his jab and other punches were more technically sound...he was able to beat mosley to the target more often in exchanges.

 

you know what, you might be right.

sometimes fights can be looked as a easy fight on paper, but it can be very competitive

 

he is past his prime. but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to beat someone especially in boxing. it's just that the stacks against cotto is higher now than the stacks against him was lower back in 2008 at his prime years.

cotto is not shot. i'm just criticizing some *****s who claim that he was back when pac was fighting him but are taking their opinion back just because floyd is fighting him next.

 

i'm not going to argue resumes. u asked about pac. i am not a hater but i will point out some glaring facts that should be considered when u look at his resume.

his wins over barerra, marquez(1) and morales(2) were legit. but it's no secret that morales was weight drained in the last 2 fights.

as for his fights from dlh on....

dlh, hatton, cotto, clottey, margarito all had weight issues(catchweights etc) and trainer issues.

dlh, hatton, cotto, shane, margarito were all coming off bad losses in the not too distant past.

all of those guys were very carefully selected as opponents. i don't believe any of them were guaranteed wins...but the odds were tipped heavily in his favor when u consider all the facts. dlh had not been at 147 in almost 10yrs. hatton was not allowed to gain more than 5lbs after the initial weigh in. cotto was forced to fight at a catchweight and i wouldn't doubt there was some sort of restriction on him gaining weight after the initial weigh in as well. clottey looked physically smaller than pac in the ring even though we know for fact that he is someone who typically weighs as much as 20lbs more on fight night. he claimed he had diarrhea the night before the fight. margarito had weight issues in the mosley fight so his move to 154 was inevitable...pac allowed him to fight at 150..but i wouldn't doubt he was also forced to a rehydration restriction the day of the fight. my suspicion is supported by the fact that he was trying to drink stuff in the dressing room on camera right before the fight. shane...a guy who i never saw dropped by a punch (forrest hurt him with a head butt before he was dropped in their fight) was put down easily by pac. he also looked as lifeless as margarito and clottey. glaring similarities imo. this is what i mean by smoke and mirrors.

floyd isn't innocent in his reign at 147 either. he's very good at picking the right opponents and retiring when the real threats appear.

 

u know...everyone was saying that pac was going to ko marquez before their last fight. i knew better. i didn't think marquez would win but i said he was going to make pac look bad again. everyone else was convinced jmm would be ktfo'd.

 

lol i was one of those people

 

i don't always get it right. i picked david diaz over pac.

btw...i'm a huge fan of lousiana hotsauce. perfect on fried chicken.

 

and oscar fought forbes at 150 just before this fight. oscar was preparing for a floyd rematch at 147 since floyd won't fight at oscar at 154 again. pac just took the chance, went up 2 divisions from 135, where he just had one fight, and was the clear underdog. so you think pac should have climbed 3 divisions instead of 2?

source on this?

cotto was not forced to fight at 145. it was actually his minimum demanad knowing that pac demanded 143. cotto's last fight, he was 146 against clottey. pac's last fight, he was 138 against hatton. after the weig-in cotto said there was no issue with the weight.

again the underlined part was another assumptions on your part. source?

really?

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if pac was physically bigger, then you might have an eye-sight problem. and you belive in clottey's excuse of dairhhea?

again you have a good theory about rehydration clause but do you honestly believe pac restricted margo to weigh only up to 165 pounds come fight night?

shane was shot but that was just one year removed from the same shane that floyd fought where floyd got tons of credit.