Cotto is a dirty cheater.

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  1. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why don't you bring up the whole quote, where he stated that since he does't think he's a real MW any MW fight will be at a catchweight.
    Neither you or me know Cotto's intention only thing you believe is everyone is scared even though that was proven false when GGG stated backtracking as soon as guys started calling him out on it.

    Regarding Oscar he also said he wasn't going to make the Trout or Lara fight's, if the fighters want it not much can stop it between the there fighters the only blatant duck was GGG of Ward/Lara.

    Cotto-Canelo is a mega fight that doesn't come around to often, GGG is just a regular fight that can happen at any point.

    I could see your argument if Cotto has had multiple fight's a champ while saying he'll never fight GGG but that isn't the case. Only thing you can find Cotto saying is that if GGG is the biggest fight after Alvarez he'll take it.
     
  2. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Not bad, not bad at all....it's clearly levels above the shots fired by twiddle Dee and twiddle dumber
     
  3. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto taking on a tough opponent and a huge mega fight vs Alvarez imo isn't a duck, a duck is GGG saying he can't fight Lara because he's not a draw only to fight the great Willie Monroe who no ones heard of instead is more of a duck.
     
  4. Chango

    Chango Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or that one fight was going to bring you $30 millions while the other fight couple of millions.
     
  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    C'mon man, Lara? I'm sure you do realize that the only way that fight could happen is if GGG left K2 and cancelled his contract with HBO, don't you?
     
  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You'd have a point if that was the excuse they went with, only once has that ever been brought up. Pretty much all the talk about Lara was no one knows him, there's no money, he isn't a draw. If they would have said that and stuck with it I would agree with you, but when you come out with excuse after excuse then try to say that a complete unknown is a bigger fight that's a clear indication networks has nothing to do with it.

    If you asked me to help you move and I said I can't i have to work and left it at that that is valid, but if I came up with 8/9 different explanation for why I can't do it i'm just bullsh!ting.

    Check my post history I fu<king hate Lara and think GGG would win doesn't change the fact that Lara would be the best guy on GGG's resume or that GGG had 5/6 different excuses for why they couldn't fight. It's like that Pacquiao situation in 12' where everybody harps on 40mil as a reason the fight didn't happen completely ignore the cut, stadium, can't fight in May, I'll take less never mind only 50/50 excuses.
     
  7. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The greed has got to stop said the guy who refused to pay an organization with lots of employees a fee so he could keep the money for himself.

    Greed - excessive desire to acquire or possess more than one needs.

    Cotto the peoples philosofer and social critique of the 21st century. I wonder what brilliant piece of word porn he's going to delight us with next.
     
  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe. But If you asked me, I don't think Lara is serious about wanting that fight either. He's been fighting lesser names @154 recently and Haymon has many good fighters to match him @160. So moving up would be much better for him not only to fight GGG but also get better fights than he's currently getting. But he'd be the p4p highest ranked name on GGG's resume, that's for sure.
     
  9. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Maybe he will delight us with more of his third person rhetoric....because we all know his command of the English language allots him this unique opportunity
     
  10. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    true enough but then again it's not like people are lining up to fight Lara even if you win your gonna look bad because of his style. I don't know I just look at the fighters history.

    GGG has fought no one anyone has ever considered elite and also backtracked when called out on his most feared bs.

    Cotto & Canelo have both said they have no problem facing GGG after there fight multiple times and Lara has said he'd fight GGG at 160 no catch weigh anywhere he wants.

    Cotto has fought everybody from this era, Canelo has fought Vazquez, Trout, Lara, even lesser guys like Rhodes etc.. Lara has fought Williams, Alvarez, Trout, Vanes etc.. All these guys have shown they will repeatedly take tough fight's meanwhile GGG has made excuses not to take some tough fight's so I put more stock in their word than Golovkin but that's just me. What has GGG done to give him clout over guys who have time and again taken on the biggest and best matchup, when GGG just recently made excuses for why he couldn't take on the best opponent he'll probably be able to face in his career.

    GGG is a cool fighter just not this beast they make him out to be.
     
  11. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're nuts. The reason Cotto's pay went up was because he was a free agent and signed a lucrative deal with Roc Nation, who are obviously overpaying to build a roster. The belt's impact on the terms of that deal was marginal at best since he was the biggest name available.

    And Canelo was never going to omit Cotto to just take on Golovkin; this was the biggest money fight available to him save a Mayweather rematch. And if that fight were to come off, no, Golovkin would not be making $30 million since he would be the clear B-side against Alvarez regardless of how many trinkets he did or did not possess. What you are attributing to the value of belts is not in line with reality and your economic ****ysis is woefully simplistic.
     
  12. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    Canelo's purse split would definitely be higher if Cotto wasn't a WBC champion.
     
  13. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is likely the case but it says nothing about the absurd notion that the belt alone has upped Cotto's purses by 6-7 times what he previously made nor the notion that Golovkin would make anywhere near $30 million if he never stepped aside.
     
  14. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Wool wool apparently you skipped out on compassion training let the man be he's quadruple God
     
  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're going to ignore list now :lol: :nut