Cotto Is A "Warrior," Yeah? How So?

Morales in Pac / Morales 3 that was great. Warrior grade: A. Would be A+ if he had gotten up rather than shaken his head and stayed down, but boy what a great fight he gave us. Much better than Barrera in the rematch with Pac. To get the A+ all mental capabilities are used to destroy the other's fighters well being and none are used to think of your own suffering - in other words, the line between bravery and stupidity can get blurry and Morales, sensibly stayed down.

With Morales, you can tell he wasn't going to let anybody pull his warrior card from him in that third one. He probably saw some tape of himself retreating against Pac in the previous match and drank himself silly that night in Tijuana.

I can see them planning it......

"Ok Erik, this time, we box and we move, we must respect the filipino's great speed, his great power, we must avoid - "

"**** YOU PUSSIES IM GOING TO KILL THAT LITTLE **** IN THREE ROUNDS!!!!"

Erik lost but he kept his warrior card.

 

You might be being a little hard on the man 'Rafa. I do agree that he might not be your Gatti type of warrior but he does have A LOT of heart. The clottey fight is a good example where he was ahead on the cards and could have quit and gotten a technical decision but decided to go the hard road.

Yes he might backpeddle at the end of fights and take away from the warrior all or nothing mentality but when he does he usually most of time ends up connecting more and does well fighting on the back foot and we cant fault him for that.

The man does have a lot of heart. A lot. then again anyone that steps in a ring for me has a lot of heart already.

 

Terrible thread.

 

Yeah i didnt go through it but thats the basically the point as you say. Huge heart but not the textbook warrior. He still an great fighter at 147 but pacquiao is an android and would love to have a sample of his blood or sweat so i can maximize my potential.

You been going to the gym lately? I had one of my macho time moments recently and had a good sparring session.

 

I agree with that, and if backing off from the other guy in order to possibly give yourself some time to recuperate from damage taken, and try to get back into the fight later on is a wise tactic. After Pac KD'd him for the 2nd time, he was hurt and knew he couldn't got toe to toe anymore. It was either that or get dropped again and have the fight stopped. What alternatives were there?

 

OHH man i know wht you mean. Damn women mess you up so much i was tripping skipping rope and looked like a noob thats how "distracted" i was. You gotta weigh the risk/reward thing now with this chick. :yep

 

maybe before all the fights you mentioned he was a warrior... but in all those with margo,clottey,pacman,and lovemore he didnt look like a warrior

 

Comic genius. :blood

Plus a touch ******ed after some of the comments / insinuations you have made in this thread. :deal

 

I guess we have to define what a warrior is. Each may have their own subjective opinion, thus, resulting with various answers. I believe there are two types of warriors - some who use their heads and others who use their hearts at all times, regardless if there is a possibility of them losing the fight. Vargas, Erik Morales are examples of warriors who just went with their heart, which brought a lot a lot of excitement but also lead to being taken out quickly when their bodies could no longer hold up to demanding task placed by their guts and hearts. On the other hand, you have guys like Marcos Antonio Barrera and Miguel Cotto, who although had the warrior inside them, they knew when to turn on switch on and off in effort to have a better chance of winning, instead of getting KTFO.

in the fight against Manny Pacquiao, Cotto, in the first four rounds went back and forth with Manny, and did so even after knowing that Manny had the power to hurt him. This, in my opinion, is a warrior; he was fighting back fire with fire. Ultimately, he got beat to the punch enough, and almost KTFO in the 4th. After that brutal knock down, Pacquiao proved to Cotto that he decided to continue that route, Cotto would get KTFO. At that point, Cotto had to make a choice; try to use your boxing skills or get KTFO. He, as a fighter wanting to win, decided to box, but that also proved to be unsuccessful.

I don't classify Cotto as an all out suicide type warrior (ala Morales), but he is more of a thinker who knows when to turn on and when to turn it off. Unfortunately, I think Pacquiao turned the switch off for him with his fists when they fought.

 

Decent Post...But your Major mistake was asking people (ESB POSTERS) NOT TO BE IMMATURE.

Not gonna happen. ESB Posters are the Kings (in some cases "Queens") of Profanity, Insults, Name calling and Accusations.

Very few actually give thoughtful insight or their opinon on a Thread that they Disagree with. Instead, opposition to a Thread is met with INTILLECTUAL IMMATURITY!!! Thats the Standard Operation of ESB Boxing Forums.

IMO...The Majority of ESB Posters are People that "LIKE" Boxing...But "DON'T KNOW" Boxing...THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO!!!

Now, as for your thread...The term "Warrior" is so over-used on these forums. And besides...I AM THE BIGGEST CRITIC OF MIGUEL COTTO.

But I must admit...He fought his ASS OFF against Pacquio. I honestly believe he was hurt badly in the 9th..thus his reason for the backward movement to avoid another Pacquio Flurry.

But MAD PROPS to Cotto....HE STILL NEEDS TO BEAT MARGARITO TO SILENCE THE CRITICS!!!