COTTO is better than anyone Floyd ever faced...

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  1. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would take prime Oscar over Cotto personally but I understand your point of view.
     
  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Agreed. Cotto would have lost to DLH in 2007 at 154.
     
  3. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You litterally have no arguments for me but to answer like that...
    You're reversing the roles. The FMJ group is ready to say anything to protect their Pretty boy's resume..his choices...his comments...his conduct..anything litterally !! :lol: With your kind, everyone that doesn't follow your views are directly put in the same hate category...It's ****in' pathetic !!!
     
  4. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    The three common fighters between PBF and PAC are DLH, Hatton, and Marquez.. That being said, PBF fought the more game DLH and Hatton. The versions of DLH and Hatton that Pac fought were washed up and punch drunk respectively. Also, I feel that PBF held back against DLH. I think he wanted to make it close for entertainment purposes. Just my thoughts on that fight. Pac destroyed the very aged and weight drained DLH easily. PBF and Pac KO'd Ricky. which leaves Marquez. Pac had two VERY close fights with him. PBF dismantled him. Cotto would have met a similar fate at the hands of PBF if that fight would have been made in 2008 when it was in high demand.
     
  5. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd does get a bit selective about who he fights nowadays though, if he wants to secure a better legacy he needs to step and fight some cats without the usual quibbling about the Financially viable edge he usually brings..

    Floyd has mad cash and needs to start proving his future standing by taking the step of beating Pac and challenging anyone else who wants some regardless of share of purses..

    Do the Warrior thing and win back some lost respect of decent fans.. I love Floyd but hate it when he acts like he is the only cat out there with claimant to the p4p title..

    Pac is the man of the hour.. Go deal with him , he is the threat to his legacy...

    You think Lennox would have retired and allowed someone like Tyson to hang around still winning titles even past his best... NO.. Lewis would have run ragged to get his ole ass in shape to prove his standings in history by putting a past prime Tyson in his place like he did.. as he would have against Klitschko had he lost to him in LA...

    Money aside its more about pride than anything else..

    He talks about .. all roads lead to Mayweather.. then he starts putting road blocks up !!!
     
  6. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the perfect bull**** that suits the agenda of the FMJ fanclub..:-(

    When running out of arguments..typical replies are "You know nothing and you're a hater" :lol:

    Yeahhh righhht....

    This fanclub of yours is often sounding as ridiculous as the "Anti defamation League" calling anyone "an anti-semite" as soon as someone has an opinion or a position that doesn't go along the Jewish agenda...

    What ever with your own bull**** amigo....

    "The thought Police at it's very best".....that's what guys like you represent !!
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Basically
     
  8. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's test your logic then...

    So P4P, talent wise and I just want you to concentrate on pure talent alone, is Andre Ward more talented than JLC ? Yes or No ? If you don't answer yes...I ****in' give up..

    Does Andre Ward have a Hall of Fame career up to now ? Yes or No ?

    You don't have a choice but to say No !

    That's why to me when I call a fighter better, it's in the pure skills department. HOF career or not has nothing to do with an assessment of skills and therefore who is better or not on paper.
     
  9. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PBF is NOT KNOWN FOR TAKING RISKS!

    As perfect record of ZERO "L" but sad to say PBF needs to assert something to assert some respect. Sure dude all wins no loses sounds great but when you look closely WHO TAKES MORE RISKS??!

    PAC or PBF




    It's NO BRAINER who takes more risks!:deal
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but that just shows how good he is. imho he's a half step slower and a little less crisp and sharp with his punches at 135. I don't think a 130 lb version of Juan Diaz would give 130 lb JMM any trouble whatsoever.
     
  11. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your main and only point seems to be that Cotto is better p4p than JLC, Genaro Hernandez, Corrales or any other of PBF's opponents, which is pretty much just hilarious. Am I missing something?
     
  12. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guess what ? I totally agree with you on that one ! :cool:
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So would I. JMM is something else.
     
  14. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not really up for debate. ODLH was two levels above anything Cotto ever reached in his prime, and so was Trinidad, and so was Mosely. Cotto barely got by an ancient Mosely, let alone a prime SSM. Cotto's very good, plenty of heart and I like him. But he's not great.
     
  15. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    nope. you're wrong. prime castillo and corrales, were better fighters as previously mentioned.