Cotto is in a lose-lose situation...

Barrera - past his prime
Morrales - past his prime
Diaz - overrated in hindsight
De La Hoya - old, weight drained
Hatton - basically knocked himself out, walking into punches

...and you're whining about excuses people might come up with if Cotto wins? What about these excuses Pac-haters make for HIS wins????

 

Pacquiao was practically begged by Arum and Roach to show up at New york and claim his FOTY awards from the boxing writer's association when Pacquiao refused to go and the timing was perfect because it so happened to be on the same week as the Cotto fight, Arum had it all planned out to lure both guys into making the fight. Cotto and Pacquiao are both puppets of Arum.

But if we want to play the blame game

lets get the facts straight here then, Cotto's team was the first to mention a Pacquiao fight back in Febuary and HE was the first to bring up the catchweight.

 

Bob Arum "shoved" Cotto down Pacquiao's throat. Pacquiao may have not been scared of Cotto, because Pac is a ****ing soldier, but Freddie Roach, who is wiser, and knows styles knew better, but succumbed to the pressure...

 

Didn't Marquez talk about feeling all the weight of Mayweather after the fight and that being very significant?

I don't know how you can say weight wasn't important. I understand that Mayweather obviously has great skills that were on display vs Marquez but still, Marquez was a career 126 pounder who could still mkae 126 pounds well into his thirties and do it comfortably, who only recently jumped up in weight chasing Pac around, and although he had great success at 135 he wasn't a big man at that weight, and than having to jump to 144 and at the last few days find out it was now at 147 so Mayweather could make weight, its crazy to say this didn't effect the fight.

Marquez hasn't won a fight above 135 and I think it is pretty clear that he is not an effective welter.

Mayweather, although clearly an incredible talent, has never faced the prime winning welters of his era and I don't consider his victory over Marquez to be a pound for pound worthy fight of the highest importance due to the size differential and Marquez having done zero above 135.

With that said, there is no question it was a spectacular performance against a great fighter in Marquez. Now try someone in your own weight class.

 

:good Under any other circumstances, Cotto would be the favorite. But since Pac has beat who he has and done so how he has, he's going in as the underdog and getting the biggest paycheck of his life. Definitely not a lose-lose.

 

To the TS: It works both ways! but i dont think its fair to isolate the *******s as those who will be giving excuses if Cotto wins. There are some out there who hates Cotto and Pac! im guessing you'll hear it a lot more from those people and not the *******s.

Hopefully we dont hear any excuse from you if Cotto loses.

 

This is so naive Kirk and you know it.

Just because Pacquiao showed up at the Cotto fight means he shoved himself down Cotto's throat? Cotto is a grown ass man, he can make decisions on his own, no one shoved themselves into anyone's throat in this fight, they both wanted and both got it.

And its kind of ironic how you say we like to make Pac out as the victim considering in the thread you are posting in.

 

exactly hes not a victim

Cotto knew well the only way he was getting this fight was to fight a catchweight, 145 was his terms and 143 was Pac's. When Cotto found out how badly Pacman wanted the title to be on the line he pulled back to 147 because he wanted to use it as a bargaining chip and squeeze as much as he can for it, but yet Pac is the monster for it.

 

This matched happened because its for the history books. Pac and Cotto are part of the elite fighters right now that are willing to get in there and give us the fight that boxing needs. Dont assume this fight would be easy for Pac since it is him who is actually challenging a very good champ in Cotto. I guess some got carried away with how Pac disposed of his last opponents, and instantly makes him a far favorite against someone who was supposed to murder him if ever they got in the ring. (thread about a fantasy fight about them from few years back)

 

...it realy just boils down to one thing. HOW AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD SEE IT.

the TS is wrong for saying boxing fans suck. it is those "******ed" boxing fans that suck.

if i want to act like a cotto-nuthugger and a dick, then same could be said to pac:
if he won: he just won because he forced cotto to go down to 145..
if he losses: that only proves that he can only beat weight drained and out of prime legends. sad part is, even a weight drained cotto was already too much for him.