Cotto is in a Lose...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ps9teacher, Nov 18, 2009.


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  1. ps9teacher

    ps9teacher Member Full Member

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    Lose Situation. He will now be relegated as the gatekeeper of the WW division. There are somethings that he needs to take care of before ever stepping into the ring again. 1.) Get rid of all the YES men in his camp. 2) PAY a TOP trainer to assist him with his defense and strategy while in a FIGHT! 3.) Dump the South African Fitness instructor! Ok maybe not the South African.

    One problem that Cotto CANNOT FIX is that HIS NOSE BLEEDS more than his face which has him breathing through the mouth almost the ENTIRE fight! Watch the Pac-Cotto fight again. You'll see that once his nose is tapped and the flow begins his mouth is wide open. In all honesty he is incapable of overcoming this problem. Which leads me to believe that he just needs to RETIRE!!
     
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  2. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All Cotto Needs to do...IS DEFEAT (ABSOLUTELY DESTROY) MARGARITO.

    And in my Opinion...He can Retire with the HIGHEST LEVEL of Respect possible!!!

    Because there is so much Controversy Surrounding his loss to Margarito.

    Cotto needs a "CONFIDENCE FIGHT" to get his "Swagger back"...then in June of 2010 in MSG...Margarito!!! GET IT DONE!!!
     
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  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    i was sure cotto would beat margarito in a rematch, unfortunatly.... the devils advocate in me sees that hes not as good as he was when he fought margarito, and continues to make the same mistakes that cost him that fight.

    Before the pac fight i was hoping for a rematch with margo.... now im not so sure.
     
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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Cotto needs more than 1 fight to get his confidence back. He needs one or two Jennings, then two or three Collazo's and Quintana's, and then he can go back in against one or two Margarito's and Berto's before facing a Mosley again.

    Should take him about 2 years which he still has plenty of time.
     
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  5. kirk

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    I agree with you ps9, he needs to really switch some things up.... and also needs to go back and study how he used to throw punches, get his form back, and work on his stamina.

    If he does that, im happy to see him give it one more crack even though its obvious to me hes not the same miguel cotto he was in 2007. But if he does these things.... i believe he can still be a force in the division.

    My worst fear for Miguel is for him to now become a stepping stone for someone he would have beaten two years ago, when it doesnt have to be that way.

    Switch all this up, give it another go on a fresh slate and see what happens. Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with retiring, its a shame so many people think there is, hes a two time champ and would retire at a perfect time to enjoy his life. There is no magical number of beatings you take before you start slurring you words.

    He needs to rebuild his gym and camp, give it another go and see how he feels.
     
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Cotto needs to improve his defense. He should mix the style he uses when he's in trouble and moves away like in the last rounds vs Pac, and his normal more aggressive style. He brawled a bit with Pac and got careless. I think he can beat Margarito. Just forget about hurting the opponent and try to win on points, and if the KO comes to him, then ok. I think he's got the tools to do this, especially the jab.
     
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  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto has not had a trainer for five or six fights, an uncle that doesn't talk to you while training is not a trainer. He needs to start there, not Santiago who was a nutritionist and fitness expert, not a ****en trainer. As the original poster said, something that will give him instruction while IN the fight.
     
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  8. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Yes he needs a good trainer.

    Freddie Roach himself said before the fight, that while reviewing all of Miguel's past fights, he noticed that the version of Cotto with hair (early part of his career) had much tighter technique, was more disciplined, and had less bad fighting habits that they could capitalize on compared to the Cotto without hair. (current version)
     
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  9. nick dio

    nick dio Member Full Member

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    Most of the previous posts hint on Cotto being washed out prior to the Pacquiao fight, or is it just me being onion-skinned?
     
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  10. Tito Time

    Tito Time slayin um Full Member

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    Coudn't agree with you more!
     
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  11. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    He's still a really good fighter. He can come back strong, with a better run camp.
     
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  12. Tito Time

    Tito Time slayin um Full Member

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    these ****in post are so on target its not even funny. but I tell you one thing I would love to meet the person to beat this into Miguels head.
     
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  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Sometime the boxer's own worst enemy is himself. Cotto needs to realize that he can't do it by himself. He needs another pair of trained eyes, one with experience and one that will tell it to him in his face.
     
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  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Cotto has a big chance against winner of Mosley/Berto.
    He's got to get rid of Santiago though. ****, maybe he should look up Robert Alcazar as he is a bit similar to DLH in style.
     
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  15. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I think he should get someone who can re-teach him how to use his right hand more.

    Fighting orthodox while being a natural lefty like Oscar is second nature to him. He can do that in his sleep.

    What he needs is to be a better 2 handed fighter. His right hand's got good power, man. He just doesnt use it as much as he needs to.
     
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