Cotto is THE MAN at 147 lbs

True in most cases.....but not all.

Erdei is the champ at LHW. But he is not "the man". At some point, and there is no predetermined time or point, you have to fight good fighters in your weight class. If you fail to do this, people will stop recognizing your status. And that's important, since the fans become historians and the like at some point, and they will decide the impact of your legacy.

 

You cant read, cant debate, and aint even in MY CLASSA:nono

Call me MASTER:good

 

10 years world champion in a 12 year career ... never coming close to losing a fight ...

Beat Baldomir who was the true welterweight champion holding the WBC/lineal/ring magazine and universally recognized undisputed championship.

Urkal, Quintana, Judah, and Mosley at the time they fought weren't the universally recognized champ ... they weren't even belt holders ... and other than Zab none of them had accomplished anything in recent memory.

 

Excuse me?

I could pick apart the rest, but I tire of pointless debate. But I would love to hear your analysis of Castillo-Mayweather I if you feel Mayweather wasn't even close to losing this bout.

 

Erdei is not the champion at LHW ... I don't know what rankings you're going by but he's not the champion.

The champion is Joe Calzaghe and he beat the former champion Bernard Hopkins, who beat Antonio Tarver, who beat Glenn Johnson, who beat Tarver, who beat Roy Jones jr.

I don't know where you guys are getting because he beat Gonzales that that grants some recognition ... because it doesn't ... Gonzales was beat pretty bad by RJJ and he also lost to Woods twice --

 

Don't argue with me on this. You'll be wrong.

Hill beat Maske unifying the two titles. Most consider Lineage starting here. If you don't recognize it here, then you have to recognize it when DM beat Hill thus unifying 3 belts. Gonzalez beat DM, Erdei beat DM. I need no rankings to tell me this.

Any argument you come up with will subsequently contradict another argument you come up with. I assure you of this.

 

Its not in most cases its in all cases ... Floyd beat the champion, which makes him the champ. Just because you guys don't feel he faced stiffer competition (which he has) doesn't take away his championship.

Cotto's most significant win was against Mosley - the same guy that avoided Floyd on more than one occassion. When both were undefeated and close to the same weight class.

I don't get how you judge a fighters competition with one fighter ... since beating Sharmba Mitchell in his welterweight debut ... he's beaten 4 straight former welterweight champions and went up to fight for a 154 title (his highest jump to date) and beat a guy that was alot bigger than him naturally.

 

Already you have contradicted your previous argument.

I have not disputed his title. I dipsuted "the man" always being the champion.

Case and point. Ezzard Charles was the man at LHW for years despite his never holding the LHW title.

 

From 98' - 04' Roy Jones Jr reigned as champion as and since 00 ... Floyd reigned as undisputed champion ... the lineage began there ... beating Gonzales and Hill ...

 

The man doesn't grant much ... look were it got Juan Diaz and look who still around ... the true champion Joel Casamayor !!

 

Ohh so you think mayweather has faced better competition than cotto at 147 please dont fool yourself,,, even quintana has fought better guys at 147 than floyd (cotto,williams,julio) >>>(judah,baldomir,hatton)

 

Wrong. You have contradicted nothing I said. You have ignored it.

I am a bigger Jones fan than you are. He was never Lineal champion. He was unified champion, but 2 of those 3 belts were either stripped or dropped by DM after he unified them.

Let me ask you....do you not recognize DM as the champion even after he unified the titles because he was stripped? If not for that reason, why are you disputing his claim after he defeated Hill? He beat Hill BEFORE Jones BTW. And Jones vs Hill was not at LHW. It was over the limit. Not even a title defense.

 

That wasn't logical and therefore deserves no response.

 

You're smart ... keep up the good work ...

 

Where is the ring magazine belt at?