Cotto: "It was impossible to hit Margarito's body"

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  1. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know if I agree with this...

    I don't think Cotto quit. ****, he was fighting on heart alone after that 7th round. I give him credit for that. He just didn't and never will have what it takes to beat Margarito. Too big, too strong, too tough, too conditioned. Period.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    PFV, you were all over it as well. I think I told you I had my father looking at pieces of footage on youtube of the fight, and on his own he found your video and quoted the "how could you not see this??" to me later on. LOL, that was extremely classic.
     
  3. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post san.

    Margarito definitely looks like he's declining. pro since he was 15 years old and with that style of fighting, he's slowing no doubt. Definitely a lot of mileage.
     
  4. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I don't know how people who describe this kind of loss as "quitting" have the nerve to act as experts in boxing.
    Sure, Cotto should stand on his feet and get knocked the **** out, so guys like you don't call him a quitter.
    You got the fight right, good for you, but this claim is absurd. Cotto got hit by 3-4 consecutive big shots before he took a knee, he even took a blow after he took a knee.
    It was obvious the guy had nothing left, Margo beat the living **** out of him, how is that qutting?
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Agreed, no doubt, E. Definately.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ha ha ha! I must have missed that. Sweet!

    :thumbsup:good:thumbsup
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I just gotta disagree. He had given up mid way through the fight with Margo constantly coming at him. He was there to survive at that point and once that didn't work out he quit all together. Which I understand and I dont agree with at all. His health etc. But I do think he given up in the mid rounds.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Oh look Lance critizing someone for having an opinion, what a surprise. :lol:
     
  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's called 'quitting' when you VOLUNTARILY decide to stop the fight without being struck by a blow or suffering from an acute injury such as a gushing cut that renders you unable to see.

    People don't want to hear it, but Cotto quit. Now, he may have been smart to quit, but he quit. He wasn't hit for around the last, I don't know, 8 seconds of the fight. After the final break, he went into full retreat and sat down like a mother hen over an egg without even taking a jab.

    Quitter.

    If Cotto were Mexican, the fans would have turned on him after he did that.

    Duran quit in "No mas."

    Tszyu was called a quitter vs Hatton and I think he had a broken rib.

    Vitali was called a quitter after he tore a rotator cuff vs Byrd.

    Cotto had no obvious injury and he just sat down on the canvas. The corner only threw in the towel because they knew Miguel wanted out.

    Whatever word you want to use, it's the same thing. Did Cotto get his ass kicked? Absolutely. Just look at my avatar. But he chose to stop the fight, himself, and that's something he has to live with whether or not I or you or anyone else thinks it was the correct choice to make.

    Oh, and I often call fights correctly. Nothing new there. The thing that was so sweet on this fight in particular, as san rafael will tell you, is that he and I were some of the few to do so. And it went exactly as we thought it would.

    Cotto's a frontrunner spoiled baby. I respect his talent, but when he got taken to the deep waters and left to swim he took a knee and the easy way out, like the heart-lacking chump he is. He's good, but he doesn't have the stones like a Margarito does. And that's one reason he'll never beat Margarito.

    I'll give you an example from MMA. A couple of the Brazillian fighters were talking about Fedor. They said he would fight you to the death, whereas Cro Cop doesn't have the heart for that. Same thing with Margo and Cotto. Cotto just doesn't have that extra gear. He never did, and I knew that a long time ago. He's great when he's younger and bigger than his opponent. You give him a little bit of adversity against a legit foe, though, and he's done. I'm not the least bit surprised he waved the white flag at the end of the bout. That's Miguel Cotto, the Cro Cop of the WW division.
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :good Great post.

    I hate how people get mad we call Cotto a quitter when in an interview after the fight, he admitted to quiting. :lol:
     
  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks, man.

    Cotto quit, there's no way around that. It may have been a smart move, but the proper term for the choice he made was 'quit.' He decided he didn't want to take one more punch so he merely squatted down on the canvas and looked to his corner to signal he wanted the towel thrown in. If that's not quitting, nothing is.

    As I said, if he were Mexican, the fans would have been disgusted. Just ask some of the other Mexican fans here. That may be harsh, but it's the truth.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    See I dont disagree with Cotto quiting for his health but I feel he had quit mentally mid way. He finally quit physically in the end.


    If he were mexican he would be getting ripped into daily still.
     
  13. kirk

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    You are going so overboard its disgusting...

    give him a LITTLE adversity against a legit foe and hes DONE? ok.. :roll:


    second of all....

    so the **** WHAT that he quit? what is your point exactly? that he wasnt willing to die in there?

    oooooook? :lol: so what? :lol: :-( :huh

    He doesnt have to 'live' with ****... because to him, he did the right thing. Not everyone can be the vargas's and wards of the world, and most dont want to be.

    Cotto has nothing to be ashamed of... he gave his all, knew that he was empty and there was nothing he could do, and if he would have continued on he would be looking at SERIOUS injury.

    I cant believe you can look at your avatar, and have the stones to call Cotto a quitter.... i guess he should have continued on until margarito gave him a brain bleed huh?

    someone like cotto who has proved his mettle before, shouldnt have to deal with internet fans labeling him a quitter for putting his life above a boxing match... but i guess there will always be those type of fans out there. For the record...

    Morales (quit in 3rd round in a fight)
    Vasquez (quit because of a broken nose)
    Zoo (quit with ONE round left)
    Duran (just quit out of fustration)
    G man Mclellen
    Julio Cezar Chavez
    Vitali (quit with a few rounds left)
    Mike Tyson (quit against a journeyman who he could have beaten if he dug deep)

    are also all 'quitters' lol... so i guess cotto isnt in that bad of company

    :-(
     
  14. kirk

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    Ya... he did quit. But most are throwing the 'quitter' term at him in a disrespectful way to in some weird sort of way thinking he should be ashamed of that or some ****... or that that in some way makes him a coward.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I dont think he's trying to rip Cotto for quiting, he's more trying to point out we the ones who say Cotto quit get critized for saying that. There's nothing wrong with quiting but it seems Cotto is given credit for quiting instead of being critized for not trying to push through it. It was a broken nose, not like a torn rotator cuff. Most fighters break a nose in a fight.