Cotto/ Mosley will be like Mosley/Estrada

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  1. JERMZ BOXING

    JERMZ BOXING Mr. Know-it-all Full Member

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    Am I the only guy who thinks that this can be a big payday mismatch??? remember that zab would wobble cotto everytime he connected...and thats only because zab was gunshy, imagine if he kept on zapping cotto with that left??? David estrada is a strong hooker who bulldozes in like cotto does...Mosley kept on being the matador as he would defuse estradas basic power style....Mosley has good pop especially against jr welt and welter...AND...AND...cotto has a shaky chin he showed against judah, torres, and corley (whom i think mosley punches harder than...) cotto is perfect foil for Mosley, big name, undefeated, star status and above that, very knockoutable... Zab was damaged goods...so, to me, Cotto is still somewhat green...watch, a left hook will do it for mosley, truss me on thiss....:bbb
     
  2. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, you are not alone, not only Mosley-Cotto will follow the same pattern as Mosley-Estrada, as it can have more or else the same official result. At some point, Shane will earn the respect of the stalker, bulky semi-crouched Cotto with a left dowstairs like against Estrada and he will not come out as often or as relentlessly, but Cotto is not green since he had 7 defenses of a Jr Welter strap in hard fought fights and has been on a fast track to take everything in front of him as a welter. Many thought Zab would do what we suppose Shane will but this is tricky, Miguel may make it too damn physical and prove stronger to the point of winning a close points decision. Left hook coming in or big overhand right, I can't trust ya as yet but thnx for the encouragement. Shane will possibly school him and overcome this very, very big threat which is Cotto, then Life will be sweet again cause no matter what Floyd does, he gat no more arguments but to fight back allegations that he is growing feathers...
     
  3. sonofdarkness

    sonofdarkness Member Full Member

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    IMO Cotto looked very slow against Zab and Zab was doing well at the start he just got outworked by Cotto who chopped him down. But Cotto is a perfect matchup for Mosely to look great. Cotto leaves himslef open to be countered as zab was timing the uppercut early on look for Shane to do the same.Should be a good fight I am a big Cotto fan but I think Mosley will outclass him easy.

    TKO 7
     
  4. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Cotto is way better than Estrada,streets ahead.Your scenario may have happened with a prime Mosely but not now.Cotto on points or maybe even a late TKO
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Cotto is in another league than Estrada. He applys effective pressure and is very smart in doing it. Cotto is more versatile than Estrada and is a better body puncher.

    Cotto by UD
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I mean his devestating left hook to the body which is reminiscent of Julio Cesar Chavez. And his non-stop punching, aggression, and educated jab that he has the ability to work behind and work his way inside with.
     
  7. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    estrada doesn't have half the power....or skill of cotto. mosley hasn't knocked out anyone worth mentioning since 135. cotto by late ko.
     
  8. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: First of all to compare Cotto to Estrada is ri-goddamn-diculous. Secondly, Mosley looked like **** in that fight. Only worth while moment was the 4th round, where he hurt Estrada to the body twice. Yet, he came out boxing in round 5 like a dummy. :nut Good pop at welter? Since when? Dude hasn't KO'd anyone not named Fernando Vargas since 2001.
     
  9. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Comparing Cotto to David Estrada is not a good idea.
     
  10. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All fighters that Shane fought since 2001 were top fighters such as undefeated welter Jose Luis Cruz and once contender David Estrada, former welter champion Luis Collazo and two time world Champions at 147, 154 lbs in Forrest, Vargas and Winky, and Oscar of course... Cotto fought Carlos Quintana, Oktay Urkal and Zab Judah in 1st year as a welter... So please, don't embarass yourself to compare Shane's resume with Miguel Cotto's at this weight class.
     
  11. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    You guys who think Cotto is comparable to Estrada dont know boxing.

    They are both Latino, they both box, and they will have both fought Mosely 2 weeks from now. Beyond that, there is no comparison.
     
  12. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all, Jose Luis Cruz was nothing more than an undefeated Mexican import, having accomplished nothing. Only noteworthy thing on his resume was a disputed "draw" in a robbery of a decision against Carlos Baldomir. A decision so disputed, the Mexican crowd booed the outcome, because Cruz clearly had lost the fight.


    David Estrada? The same David Estrada who was beaten from pillar to post by Ishe Smith of all people, and hurt multiple times in the fight, prior to fighting Mosley? And recently starched by Cintron and Berto both? Yet, you consider him noteworthy? And if so, what do you think of Berto and Cintron being able to finish him and Shane not even putting him down?



    The same Luis Collazo who was starched in 3 rounds by journeyman Cassiani? The same Luis Collazo who went life and death with Jose Antonio Rivera? The same Luis Collazo who was damn near ran out of the ring by Ricky Hatton and looking to the ref for help? :lol: Yet, Collazo made Shane look silly in the 2nd round, snapping his head back with hooks and crosses, leaving him discouraged after the round. Lucky for Shane, he was injured in the following round. Still Hatton and Rivera both landed more eye catching shots on Collazo than Shane, despite Collazo fighting Mosley injured.


    News flash. Winky and Forrest beat Shane's ass. And most feel Oscar won the Mosley rematch, where Mosley tried to cheat his way to victory by juicing. Vargas was shot. So what you're trying to prove here, I really don't know.

    Zab Judah winning 4 out of 12 rounds against Mayweather, hurting him in the 4th and unofficially knocking him down, is more impressive than anything Shane has done in the last 5 years.


    :patsch Embarass myself? Please.
     
  13. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I won't compare Estrada and Cotto because I know better, but if you watch the 3 fights, sure Mosley doesnt take him out, he had him hurt to the body, but Mosley was also barley touched by Estrada while both Cintron and Berto got hit all night long. So maybe Mosley didn't take him out, but he fought alot smarter. Mosley pre-Forrest would have starched him though, I still think he hasn't been the same since that fight, and hes my favorite fighter(Cotto being 2nd)
    By the way, you are more bias then the original poster. The Collazo stoppage against Cassiani was BS in my view, plus the kid can hit. And, other than the first round where he was off balanced and went down, how the hell was he ran out of the ring? I had him winning the fight. And Shane looked silly in the 2nd round? Why because thats the only round he lost and he was hit with one straight left? Lets not forget how silly Cotto looked when he was doing the Judah dance in there with Torres, a guy who took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

    If your going to make a point off a thread you think is foolish, then don't make your own points by being even more foolish.
     
  14. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt about it. What irks me about Shane, and not only him. But fighters like Oscar, Hopkins, and Winky as well, is that people like to view them as being (or at least close to) on top of their game. These fighters peaked many years ago and aren't nearly in the same form as in previous years.
     
  15. taino

    taino Active Member Full Member

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    This is rediculious how can u compare cotto to estrada!cottos a lot more skill boxer, better body puncher,better stamina, this is the most rediculious thing i heard today!!