**Cotto v Malignaggi...could it be blueprint type of fight ...**

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  1. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    We all have to agree tht Pauli is excellent boxers with great skills, great moves and fast..not PBF fast, but very fast nevertheless...yet Cotto was able to dominate Pauli with repeaded monster body shots, and counter left hook to the head that grously disfigured Pauli at the end of the fight....

    This was Cotto's last fight at 140, a weight that cause him to not be at his best, it took some major effort for Cotto to make the 140 limit, even wioth a nutritionist you can tell that Cotto was not at his prime optimus at 140..yet he displayed great power, speed and accuracy, which were the 3 main reasons he defeated Pauli with ease...Pauli proof to be game and one tough custormer, fighting with a broken chick bone, along with a crack jaw...painful stuff..

    My question is can we use the Malignaggi fights as a model to what we could expect from Cotto v. PBF.....
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    No. Paulie is not on Floyds level and doesn't even fight like Floyd.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Cotto CAN deal with speed, but Mayweather brings other things to the table that Malignaggi did not and he is better at just about every area.
     
  4. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Well, I did mentioned that Pauli is fast but not PBF, now MAlignaggi is a tall opponent for Cotto and he was able to not only deal with the speed but with the slight height disavantage also...

    All I am saying that it is clear that Cotto been able to handle speed with confidence, SSM, Judah, Chop Chop ..all in the win column...

    Only time will tell who is right or n ot...but (ragardless of what I think of PBF)This is not going to be a walk in the park for PBF, Cotto is to mature, to strong and too skillfull to be a blow out type ala Hatton....
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Agreed, it wouldn't be a walk in the park for Mayweather or Cotto.
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    SSM is not as fast as Floyd.

    Judah frustrated Cotto early with his speed and was easily beating him to the punch and stunning him often. Too bad Judah can't keep that pace like Floyd can.


    Chop Chop as fast as Floyd? Come on.. if you want to go by that, then Corley is fast and put Cotto on ***** street and if Corley had power he would of finished Cotto.
     
  7. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Did I said he did...dude you are so matter of fact when it comes to you boy PBF is not even funny...


    Listen....I am using Pauli's talent as an example of the speed that Coto has faced and handle with ease...this is a fact...Ok...deal with it...

    Sure he doesn;t fight like PBF but he also brings other elements to the table, reach advantage over Cotto for starters, a good east-west boxer making him difficult to hit flush since he is alwas moving...

    I just want to point out examples that Show Cotto handling speed with a boxer just picking or just at the early stages of his prime, like Pauli was when he fought Cotto....
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    The only fighter he's fought with Floyds speed was Judah and Judah was beating him to the punch and Judah got low blowed and couldn't keep up the pace like Mayweather can.


    You also asked if we can use it to compare and I simply said No, he doesn't fight like Floyd or isn't on the level of Floyd.
     
  9. BigReg

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    Hell no. Cotto was able to weigh in early which allowed him to put on more weight. The fight was also in a small ring. This forced Paulie to alter his game plan and stand his ground more with Cotto. Despite this, Paulie still only lost a close decision despite being knocked down. And let's face it, Paulie is not a great defensive fighter, and seems vulnerable to left hooks. Even N'Dou was landing them on him.

    Now if Cotto fought Floyd, it would be in a standard size ring; allowing Floyd to use the movement that Paulie intended on using before team Cotto decided to tilt the fight in their favor with a tiny ring. Also, Floyd is much faster, hits harder, and has a much better defense. Especially against the left hook. He also a much more varied offensive attack than Paulie. Bottom line, this fight should not be used as a blueprint of what to expect from Floyd vs. Cotto. It would be a totally different ballgame.
     
  10. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Dude stop comparing the boxers to PBF, I never said they were as fast as PBF...Get the **** out the thread...you are nuance...dude....a nuance

    You think you know boxing tactics and technique but you know ****...all your post are simple one liners...repeating what you heard on tv or you read somewhere...dude be your ownm guy..have an opinion of your own other than...PBF is faster..or PBF is better...blah blah blah..it gets old after a while
     
  11. eze

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    Then how can you say Cotto handles speed great when the only fighter he faced near Floyd was beating him up.


    You ask if we can compare, I say no, and you get bad.

    I must of heard Floyd was faster then those fighters on TV. I must of..:patsch
     
  12. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    By the way fool, if Chop Chop had power he would ahve finish Cotto and PBF both....

    and BTW did you forget that PBF also had issues with Judah speed and southpaw stance in the first 5 rounds or so...

    You have slective memory..and flawed analysis...
     
  13. Symphenyceo

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    paulie hit cotto alot...he just didnt have pop....but back to the question...HELL NO..paulie is not no where near pbf level and has no where near the skill or defense...and paulie fought cotto in a small ring
     
  14. eze

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    Chop Chop stunned Mayweather and Mayweather came back to win the round.

    Cotto was on ***** street, and couldn't barely stand up on his own, I guess you have a selective memory.


    What does Judahs speed have to do with Cotto fighting Floyd.

    COTTO is not as fast as Judah and would not be using the same gameplan. And Cotto isn't a southpaw fighter. If Cotto fought like Judah and was a southpaw, I'd agree with you and compare but they don't fight the same.

    But again tell me what Floyds dealing with speed with Judah have to do with Cotto when he's not near as fast as Judah?
     
  15. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    ...beating him up..dude by the time of the Chop Chop stoppage the card were 38-35 across the board including and extra point for the 10-8 round in favor of Chop Chop....:rofl

    Whe I ask as a blueprint, is simplem this was the faster boxer that Cotto had faced on his prime or early prime....