Cotto V Williams This generation's answer to Hagler v Hearns

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lionel Rose, Apr 12, 2009.


  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't see Cotto moving up to 160, let alone 168. 154 is a stretch. Cotto has that stocky frame and I think he's best off staying at welterweight.

    There's also not really any stylistic comparisons between Cotto-Williams and Hagler-Hearns.

    This generation has had better fights than Hagler-Hearns, only they weren't mega fights that even appealed to the mainstream like Hagler-Hearns did (and Cotto-Williams wouldn't).
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Quintana turned up with a smart game plan and executed it exceptionally well, timing counters when Williams lunged in sloppily.

    Williams wouldn't do that against Cotto, and has improved anyway..... I just see Cotto eating a lot of leather before being stopped. His stamina is very suspect, and is at his best when HE dictates the pace. Margarito had the pace set to perfection pretty much throughout, and his output was sufficient to break Cotto down.

    I don't buy the loaded gloves thing in this instance, people ought to just admit that Margo peaked mentally and physically for that fight and won fair and square.
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would love to see this. If Williams stays @ 147 its bound to eventually happen.
    I also think Cotto has a better chance than most think. All it takes is 1 left hook to the ribs & Cotto's a good, smart boxer
     
  4. BIGMAKK1005

    BIGMAKK1005 Member Full Member

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    the "PEACE" AT THE END WAS JUST FOR EVERYONE MAN DONT TAKE IT PERSONALL ITS SOMETHING WE NEED IN REALITY . aND I GET UR POINT BUT TELL ME THIS ISNT COTTO ONE OF THOSE RARE FIGHTERS THAT DOESNT BACK UP FROM A CHALLENGE. IM NOT SAYING IT WOULD B EASY IT WONT COTTO WOULD BE AN UNDERDOG IN THAT FIGHT HANDS DOWN BUT WAT IM SAYING IS THAT WELL COTTO DOES A FIGHTERS CHANCE AND would really like for him to pull it off but he first has to DO THE CLOTTEY FIGHT AND DEMONSTRATE WAT HE HAS AND REALY CAN DO. IS THAT ANY BETTER FOR U?
     
  5. Scar

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    Calm down, no need for all the caps man. :lol:

    Cotto backs from no one, if Arum asks him to fight Williams he will and next week, I'm not denying that. Still in boxing styles make fights and Williams' style is just wrong for Cotto as I explained in my previous post.

    It would be a hell of a fight and maybe even competitive in the early rounds but it will slowly go Williams' way, the same Williams who in EVERY fight proves he has stamina to go 15 rounds throwing over 100 per round. Cotto's stamina isn't that great and he tends to wait and counter, waiting to counter someone like Williams will be VERY hard. Williams has the size, reach, speed, chin, power(might be even), skill, movement and even defense advantage(s). Just a nightmare for Cotto and I love Cotto.
     
  6. Fausto

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    LOL!

    This is the best post in the thread! :happy

    aj415 is full of win.
    :deal
     
  7. BIGMAKK1005

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    it doesnt have to do anything because quintana and cotto are to extremely different fighters. Im just saying that cotto is a far beter fighter than quintana and that id=f quitana did what he did against pw in their first fight, cotto could do better than people give him credit for. Like i said a couple of times it will surely not be easy as pw is a freak fighter xd, he really is awesome love his style. I just dont see an easy fight for him against cotto but yea cotto would be the underdog in the fight nontheless
     
  8. Scar

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    Sorry for getting in between the discussion but I'm really getting sick of people mentioning the Quintana fight. Williams fought like pure **** in that fight and learned from his mistake, after all he proved it in the rematch.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

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    Cotto isn't a counter puncher though..... Quintana was able to have success for exactly that reason in the 1st fight.
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yo your obviously either very young or not very astute in the sport of boxing...


    quintana and cotto have NO SIMILARITIES stylistically......
     
  11. BIGMAKK1005

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    IM CALM AN DONT WORRY THE CAPS IS THAT I WAS WRITING ON THE MSN SO :good AND YES PW HAS HUGE ADVANTAGES AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT, BUT COTTO IS MY FIGHTER AND AI BACK HIM UP ANYWHERE EVEN IN A FIGHT WER NO ONE THINKS HE CAN PULL IT OFF OR WER HE HAS NO CHANCE AT ALL ILL BE THERE ROOTING FOR HIM. BUT YEA PW IS A FREAK OF NATURE N BOXING
     
  12. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. BIGMAKK1005

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    i kno but it happened and it has to b brought up seriously we saw a different pw in that fight who is to say that that same pw does show up not likely but things happen
     
  14. Scar

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    Don't think he will in a major fight like this, major fights are what Williams is desperately trying to get there's just no way in hell will show up in poor condition.

    Quintana was a guy who got iced against Cotto when Williams got to him so I don't really blame Williams for fighting terrible, then again I would expect him to take all fights seriously as he's proving after the Quintana experience.
     
  15. BIGMAKK1005

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    true dat i second that but still weirder **** has happened but i dont think itl happen again