Cotto VS Canelo: A Technical Summary

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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  2. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    I don't think Canelo has the style to get it done versus Golovkin. He would eventually be broken down trying to play this most comfortable style of counter punching.

    Cotto on the other hand, would more than likely use a similar game plan in Cotto/Margarito 2, where he gets off punches and ties up his opponent. Very Wlad like, but it works. Hopkins was also effective at doing this and to avoid this, Golovkin would have to get off first. Cotto's got very quick handspeed at middleweight and that would be his biggest advantage there. Golovkin has great timing, so I think he would eventually catch Cotto coming in. Cotto cannot fight off the backfoot against Golovkin. It would just prolong the inevitable. His best chance is to score first, tie up, and repeat IMO.
     
  3. Heavy Handed

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    Canelo is not a pressure fighter by nature. He likes to counter punch and even then, tends to set his feet before throwing. This is how Floyd offset most of his offense. He jabbed and punched before Canelo could set. Cotto is quite capable of doing the same thing, except his jab is much heavier than Floyd's. Plus, Cotto has a sneaky jab off rhythm that will work wonders against Canelo.
     
  4. elchivito

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    Cotto to me is a fighter that's used to overpowering his opponents. When he can't, he does the smart thing and usually starts to box, which he did against Mosley and Margarito II. We all know Maravilla was done so Canelo will prove whether Cotto is a legit 160lber or not. Cotto's jab is among the best, so that may be an important key in this fight. But if it becomes a toe to toe battle, and Cotto being an aging warrior himself, Idk how much punishment he can take. To me he is still very open to the uppercut.
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    I never said Canelo was any pressure fighter.

    But he will bring a heavy offence unlike what was brought to Cotto in his last 3 fights.

    Floyd was able to pot shot a drained Canelo because he was only able to fight in spurts and most likely believed he was in there for a 12 rounder.

    Canelo is very aggressive when he has you close or up against the ropes and Cotto will find his back up against the ropes.

    No way can he dance around Canelo like Floyd did and like he did previously.
    His opponents allowed him do it.

    Canelo is going to be too powerful for Cotto. He's getting stopped.
     
  6. dinovelvet

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    Canelo slips jabs. His upper body movement is too good to get popped with jabs. I didn't see Mayweather landing a lot of jabs.
     
  7. Bogotazo

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    I don't know if he can cut off the ring well enough to get Cotto on the ropes. When he advances, like against Lara in the video, he still waits on opponents. Counter-punching is his best bet.

    Also Floyd didn't really dance around Canelo. He circled him tight and at times backed him up.

    Really? In the video I show Lara hits him with plenty of straight punches and Floyd controls him with the jab.
     
  8. IsaL

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    Canelo is too much for Cotto.

    Cotto is too fragile for a fighter like Canelo. There is absolutely no way Cotto can be on his toes for the entire fight the way Lara and to a degree Austin Trout were against Canelo.

    Canelo will either KO Cotto or batter him en route to a clear UD.
     
  9. Bogotazo

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    Never been stopped cold, yet fragile? Interesting.
     
  10. IsaL

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    You don't have to be stopped cold to be considered fragile.

    Cotto has been wobbled by Zab Judah, Demarcus Corley, Ricardo Torres, Floyd Mayweather and has been KTFO by Manny Pacquiao, Antonio Margarito and soon Saul Alvarez.

    I'm not talking about flash KDs here, I'm talking about spaghetti legs, cobb webbs, and head spinning type of hurting.

    For an elite fighter, he is pretty fragile.
     
  11. Capitan

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    Typically ISAL has some good points...but on this one you can't blame him. He views this match up through Ginger colored lenses!!! :D
     
  12. Bogotazo

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    And Marquez has been dropped by as many fighters. Would anyone consider him fragile? Cotto getting hurt by punchers and recovering makes him unqualified for a granite chin, but his resilience makes him durable.

    If Canelo stops Cotto, don't call Cotto fragile, call Canelo explosive.
     
  13. IsaL

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    The best Rivalry in boxing
     
  14. alexgtshp

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    I'm sorry but Cotto has never been KTFO. As for Canelo, well he's no slouch, but I have seen nothing that shows he has the work rate to pressure Cotto for 12 rounds. The fight is a toss up, not a given for either fighter, but I believe youth and strength are not enough at this point to prevail over the experience Cotto brings. Slight edge to Cotto for me.
     
  15. IsaL

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    The thing with Marquez is you know he will never get KTFO, despite him standing toe to toe, especially in his prime. Plus the vast majority of his KDs were flash KDs.

    Cotto on the other hand is very suceptible to getting hurt, and likely folding or just getting battered due to the punishment he takes and can't absorb very well.

    Canelo seems to be a more durable fighter, while Cotto seems to not handle punishment as well as other elite fighters.