Cotto vs Margarito. Instant classic?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I just watched Cotto vs Margarito. My thoughts are this is an instant classic. Great comptetive fight. A super skilled boxer puncher vs a super durable aggressive pressure fighter.
     
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  2. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    It was a very good fight, and will probably go down as a classic due to it being Mexico vs Puerto Rico.
     
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  3. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    classic. the best welterweight fight since mosley dlh in 2000


    not as great as some of the fights between latinos fighters in recent times
     
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  4. warrior85

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    definetly
     
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  5. McGrain

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    I agree with you. I think instant classic is exactly what it is.

    I also think that Margarito's performance was one of the best of this decade, if not the best. He broke a classy box-puncher who was known as a heart-breaker himself. Extraordinary.

    Margarito is limited. I don't expect him to go unbeaten. But he was absolutely astonishing against Cotto.
     
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  6. PowerPuncher

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    Not in the league of Barrera-Morales 1 or 2 or 3 for that matter. I personally thought Mayweather-Hatton was a better fight. Good fight though
     
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  7. Loewe

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    Just to mention a few better performances:
    - Hopkins-Trinidad
    - Wright-Trinidad
    - Calzaghe-Lacy
    - Hopkins-Tarver
    - Wright-Mosley
    - Calzaghe-Kessler
    - PBF-Hatton
    - PBF-Corrales
    and so on. It is up there but not the best.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    Why is Hopkins perfomance against a smaller puncher better than a pressure fighter finding a way to break a box-puncher within the ten round limit for heart?
     
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  9. Jack

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    The winner of every one of those fights is the better fighter though. Margarito probably isn't, which is why his performance should be considered better.

    It's like Frazier vs. Ali. Had Ali won the first fight by the same margin Frazier did, it wouldn't have been considered as great a win as Frazier's, because Ali is the better of the two. So Frazier winning was worth more because he should have lost.

    Margarito should also have lost to Cotto.
     
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  10. Loewe

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    The difference is the quality of the fighters, Trinidad proved that he was great. Cotto hasn´t. Also Trinidad wasn´t smaller. Hopkins weighed in at a lower weight than Trinidad. If you say Trinidad was smaller than Hopkins than Cotto was also smaller as Margo. And then Hopkins performance was far more dominant than Margo´s over a greater opponent. How can´t it be a better?
     
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  11. Loewe

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    Well, the opponent in most of these fights is also better than Cotto. That balances it out. I don´t say it wasn´t a great performance by Margo but it wasn´t the best of this decade.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Trinidad is a natural welter who made limited impact at middle. What is more he was a puncher stepping up in weight versus a granite chined champion.

    To be clear - Cotto is the better fighter at welterweight, as compared to his contempories, than Trinidad was at middleweight, compared to his contempories

    Margarito was a pressure fighter in against a more mobile fighter who was a better composite puncher and had already proven his heart. Within the twelve round limit he broke the superior fighter, the more skilled fighter. He forced that proffessional to take to his knees rather than continue in the fight.

    It was the perfect execution of that style in a set of circumstances which were not becoming to that style. Absolutely extraordinary.
     
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  13. carras

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    it was very good, but i don't think it was that great.
     
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  14. Ted Spoon

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    A needed breath of fresh air for the time; an excellent fight, not a classic.
     
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  15. TIGEREDGE

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    are you having a ****ing joke? Mayweather Hatton was not boxing it was wrestling
     
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