Cotto vs margo...something worrying!!

I believe he whipped that boy's ass fair and square.


But against Williams, also in California where he was caught against Shane, he used them to no avail.:smoke

 

I think he won the fight, loaded gloves or not. Margo walked through everything Cotto could throw at him with out even flinching. I think the presure would have been too much either way. That said, the damage done to Cotto wasn't natural, I believe he loaded his gloves.

 

3:05 - 3:10

Tyson didnt connect clearly but that looked more intentional than the Margarito or the AA one.

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Williams was on the verge of losing that fight, he managed to man up for the 12th and I credit him for that but Margo was breaking him down. I think the difference between that fight and the Cotto fight is Williams height. That fight was the one of the few times I've seen Williams fight tall.

 

Addie in your honest opinion, after knowing Margarito attempted to insert illegal substances in his wraps, what is the probability (give us a percentage) of him having used them at least once before?

 

I don't think Margarito attempted to insert anything. His trainer, perhaps, but not Antonio himself. It wasn't harder punches that defeated Cotto that night anyway.

 

So the fact that there is evidence he tried to cheat vs Mosley doesn't tell you anything and doesn't make you suspicious about his previous fights one bit? :think

 

I don't remember asking you anything, asswipe. :twisted:

 

Suspicious, but I'm not ready to say for certain that Margarito ruined Cotto as a result of cheating like some emotional fella's here.

 

Until its clear cut that Margarito used dodgy wraps in the cotto fight, Margarito won the cotto fight because of conditioning, chin, work rate and stamina more than power.

 

There is enough evidence in favor of Margarito to suggest he may not have known his wraps were being loaded.......To this day, Margarito admits that something was abnormal with the knucklepads when he felt them at the hearing.....but he goes on to say that it has'nt been made clear to him whether that was actual plaster in those knucklepads.....


I"m baffled as to why not more of the hate is not directed at the commisions themselves who are their to inspect the wrapping sessions.


Let me give you an example.......most everyone in boxing forums like this have come to hate John Ruiz with a passion......"he's a cheater that gets away with excessive holding and drops to the canvas portraying he's been low blowed everytime someone has hit him was a mean shot to the body.........

Thread after thread directing hate Ruiz' way........and through all of this, I've said, Ruiz is not to blame. He does'nt have the skills to do it any other way.
What ever he can get away with for the sake of winning he's going to implement in the ring.
......and as long as the ref does'nt put a stop to his holding and gives him counts when he's been hit legitly to the body.......you dont blame Ruiz for that when its the referee who's not implementing the rules that should be implemented.


You dont blame Ruiz for fighting within a style thats to his advantage, you blame the ref for not regulating and implementing the rules of the game to make it a fair contest.

Likewise with the Margarito situation.
Nobody knows for sure whether Capetillo had attempted and suceeded in inserting illegal knucklepads on Margarito.

If it did happen, I blame the commsion inspectors that should be there to perform a duty of ensuring proper legal hand wraps.

If Margarito has cheated in the past, it happened because someone who gets paid to ensure safety and fairness, along with somebody from your own camp who is there to ensure the entegrity of both the inspector and the fighter wrapping, did'nt do their job.

 

I never suggested Margarito beat Cotto because of cheating.

But the fact he tried to cheat shows that he and/or his team had that in mind and they certainly could have tried it before. I can't give a fighter like that props no matter what he did in the past, because his actions overshadowed his previous achievements.

 

Ok let's say it wasn't Margarito that inserted it, but his trainer. Surely the thought of his trainer inserting illegal substances in previous fights, is a serious possibility?

It was an accumulation of shots that defeated Cotto that night. Yes those shots could have been normal legit shots, but at the same time thos shots could have padded cement shots as the fight wore on.

It's easy to sit there and say "well until there's no solid proof, I'm not going to believe he was loaded", because lets be realistic here, chances of a confession or evidence surfacing which confirms this, are almost non-existent. And because of this, we're supposed to disregard the possibility or even the thought of him cheating? I don't think so. He's lucky to even be back in boxing, so the least we can do is maintain our suspicions of him.

 

yeah im sure lots of us would have tons of heart determination and will knowing that the game plan is to throw over 100 punches a round with cemented gloves :-(

 

A possibility, yes. Certainty? No.