Sorry i should have clarified. I wasn't directly quoting you, the use of "" was stupid. That was what it appeared you were implying in your post, with your comment regarding Griffins performance for the 8 rounds. I think Pernell could potentially give Roy problems yes. HOWEVER... We are talking about Roy's prime at 168, a weight which he was far less reluctant. Against a guy who isn't a puncher, and wouldn't have a reach advantage like Harding did for instance. I think Roy would be aggressive, and would be unorthadox enough to be difficult to defend against overall. I think Pea would give him the toughest test for sure h2 and p4p though, i stated it would be a difficult fight earlier also. Regarding my comments about Roy being another level entirely, i edited that before. Pulled a bit of an Amsterdam on that one, with an intentional exaggeration. What i should have said was that Roy was definitely at the top end of the spectrum in terms of elite level fighters.
Alright. You know how I am right now. I'm probably going to have to stop posting for fear of losing credibility for the rest of the night. Peace.
LMAO. Competitive? This is the worst style for Pac against the BEST version of Mayweather, who's on a whole different level at 130 than Pac is at 126-130. Your Pac nuthugging is extreme. Pac's not a technical pressure fighter, he's a fast handed, powerful swarmer who's open to counter punchers, Mayweather would not likely be troubled at all by Pac's style, even though he has a good straight left and Judah was able to land that at 147 in a few instances. There is no possibility of this being anything other than a wipe out and Mayweather TKO win. He was also huge at the weight.
Agreed, Mayweather is possibly the WORST style match up for Pac, apart from maybe a top level pressure fighter. Still, very bad fight.
Yes, bad style for Guzman. Cotto eats slickster counter punchers up with his effective precision pressure and Guzman lacks the power p4p to put a dent in him. That said, very close fight, UD to Cotto on better work. Why do you not believe me? Sometimes a guy has a better fighters number for a variety of reasons. Mijares would tool Guzman also.
I'd take Cotto over Pac, but I'd be wary of the KO threat from Pac H2H P4P. Mayweather at 130 vs. Pac(130 version) is just a near mismatch. Mayweather 130 vs. Pac 122-126 is still a bad shutout, with a late stoppage in all reasonable scenerio's. Mayweather 140 and above vs. any version of Pac still wins a very wide decision, I mean the pot shotting safety first version that we've had lately. .... I don't care if Pac got two lucky decisions over JMM either, supposedly proving he can beat an elite counter puncher, JMM was not and never will never be a fighter on Floyd Mayweather's level. JMM is an elite fighter and a joy to watch, but no ATG level fighter IMO.
I agree, but pharoah is a big pac nuthugger so seeing him admit to pac being defeated is very revealing. PBF would do pac worse than he did Gatti.:yep
I'm just surprised, i thought both you and Huki were high on Guzman. I rate him quite highly also. I actually think it would be a very close fight. I think p4p and h2h, Guzman is a tougher fight than Kessler, whom Cotto would beat down from close quarters. I am obviously in the minority here though.
No, it's a different fight. But he'd move and counter him silly all night long, then rip combinations when Pac gets stunned, it'll really be over in 5-7 rounds, but it wouldn't look like the Gatti fight because Pac and Mayweather would both be moving and Mayweather would be defensively nullifying Pac's speed, gatti didn't have it.
Calzaghe would be the toughest fight for Cotto p4p and h2h, clearly IMO. It a fight i would love to see though. I think we have yet to see the best from Cotto. I would love to see how he adapts when behind on the scorecards. Calzaghe would be the favourite however, for good reason.
Im not saying it would be similar to the gatti fight but once PBF started timing pacs predictable one twos it would be a matter of how much pacs chin could stand. I agree it would be over in 5 to 7 rounds as PBF had some pop and we havent seen pac get hit with someone with power anywhere near the power PBF had at 130. :deal
you consistantly underrate Pacquiao. My Pac nuthugging is extreme because i think Floyd would beat him in a competitive fight? on the contrary its you who are a hater, from saying that Pac lacks courage to saying you just want to see him lose to anyone. Here's why I think it would be competitive. Floyd got hit with some good shots by both Judah and Corley, both southpaws who are not on the level of Pac. Apart from that Pac's footspeed and reflexes are very good and when Floyd leads with straight rights Pac has the speed to step out of range and counter with the right hook, like Judah was able to do when he knocked down Floyd. Floyd had to adjust and bring the pressure to Judah in order to beat him, a strategy that would not work too well against Pacquiao. So what would Floyd's strategy have to be? To let Pacquiao lead, pick off his shots, counterpunch, and move out of the way. Floyd is great at doing this and has alot of power at 130 which is why i give him the edge. However Marquez was also very great at doing this (though not as much as PBF), and Marquez' stance was more adapted to southpaws than Floyd's. Like I said Floyd would win it, but it would be competitive. You can laugh your ass off all you want, that doesn't make your point more valid. My Pac nuthugging is hardly extreme, though I am a big fan of his and rate him higher than most. Your hatred of Pac is however very obvious and also pathetic