Cotto was Not selected as Manny's Next Opponent Because He was going to ask for OST's

You don't know what the **** you're talking about so I suggest you STFU. I've only been banned once and have never made an alt and never will. Alts are for pussies.

 

I hear what you are saying but just b/c Manny was able to take bigger men's punches is NOT a valid reason to spread rumors and accusations that not only has the potential to damage his legacy but also his ability to make a living.

Now of course it didn't get to that level simply b/c very few bought the whole "Story" that PAC being from the Philipines had access some of the best PED's in the world or that Manny has been on roids and that he's only beating up these guys becuase of it.

The timing, they method they used to set up the olympic testing demands was all just a little suspect and most didn't really buy into what Floyd and his team were pushin.

Cotto was bigger than 147 on fight night....DLH was 147 on fight night...NOT Cotto. Marg beat Cotto just as severely if not more and what PAC does and what Floyd does is on anther level b/c they are TRULY GREAT fighters.

Ray Robinson started off at light weight and was knocking out Middle weights with one punch. Duran did the same....leonard and otehr greats had similar success which isn't proof they were doping...nor does anyone think that.

Just b/c someone is successful moving up doesn't warrant accusations or the demands of Olympic style testing to support the accusations. That is backwards. There should be solid proof or sources, evidence that supports the accusations. Which there were none.

PAC's camp may have come off as actin "guilty" to some but to most it was reasonable considering how the demands were created and who the source was.

Its not contradictory about a supersition about feeling weak after giving blood given the fact that Manny would still give blood...he just has valid concerns about how it affects his performance if blood is taken so close to the fight.

It's completely different than Floyd making up accusations and demanding blood tests without anything to support such damaging comments.

The point is that THERE ARE ALREADY measures in place to test the athletes in this sport and it's had success in catching those who cheat. If there were NOT any measures in place I could understand the DEMAND for tests to be imposed.

I think Floyd is scared of the "RISK" moreso than PAC as a fighter. Floyd isn't eager to "RISK" losing his undefeated record by going up with Manny.

 

While beating Cotto sparked Mayweather Sr's concern. It wasn't the Cotto fight that escalated the drug testing to the level that it was in negotiation. The accusations and rumors didn't escalate until after Pac's camp were inconsistent with there statements. Pac did it to himself and drew negative attention to himself about the drug testing. If they would have agreed to the drug testing and went on with the fight then blood testing would be a dead issue. If they denied the blood testing but came out with and stuck with one principal to why they won't do it then they would have gained more support and would have more peoples respect and trust. But the fact that they made themselves look guilty is the reason why more rumors and accusations started popping up. If Pac's camp would have been consistent then I think Mayweather would have been more willing to back off somewhat on the drug testing. The fact that they were inconsistent made him press the attack. Now he is pressing even more only because to him its out of principal and because as a competitor he isn't trying to lose to Pac in the negotiations.

Even if Pac didn't say it himself someone from his camp released that Pac was scared of needles. That's Pac's camp's fault for bringing that negative attention. Then you have video of Roach saying no problem of drug testing then later on back tracking on that statment. Even if it was miss interpreted they still brought that negative attention to themselves. Mayweather didn't force Roach or Pac's camp to do or say those things. They did it to themselves.

Again at first it wasn't accusations it was just precautionary due to Mayweather Sr's concerns. Mayweather himself did not say nor has he ever said that Pac is on steroids. All Mayweather has maintained was that he wants a level playing field and that drug testing is good for boxing and he would like to clean up the sport. Rodger and Sr did say it more definitively that Pac is on something but they are not Mayweather jr.

Robinson, Leonard, Duran were before my time, I can't comment on there careers. I only know of them through watching old fights and legend. They did fight in a different era of time so its not so easy for me to compare what they did with Pac. Cotto was indeed 147 on fight night as they showed the fight night weights of the fight. Pac even looked bigger then him in the ring. Cotto looked lean, Pac's arms looked very solid.

 

Manny and his team WANTED the fight and didn't want to give Floyd the chance to dip out of taking the fight due to the demands. So Manny agreed to the demands but had one stipulation. They couldn't agree on that one stipulation which ultimately killed the fight.

Sure Manny could have given in to EVERYTHING regarding the tests Floyd demanded but why should he? Based on how things were going it seemed as though if it wasn't one thing it would be anther in terms of making the fight reality.

No one in PAC's camp came out and said he's scared of needles. tehy used his interviews where he said he doesn't like blood taken from him at all and espcecially close to a fight and came up with the whole "scared of needles" bit.

Roach and PAC have NO problems with drug testing....they have to do it all the time anyway, but when the USADA's protocol was unvealed it showed that blood could be taken all the way up to the day of the fight and that was a NO GO for manny. After the fight YES! No problem...but not too close to the fight b/c of obvious reasons.

Sr's concern doesn't warrent baseless allegations where he tried to make it seem as though it was a FACT! And the allegations were supported by JR plenty of times. Floyd has said PAC was juicing and that he was using drugs from the Philipines in order to reach Floyd's level as a boxer.

ON fight night Miguel was between 156 and 159. Manny was between 147 and 149. At least thats what I read.