Cotto was Not selected as Manny's Next Opponent Because He was going to ask for OST's

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    you don't want straight, meaningful answers. I gave you one earlier and you completely ignored my reply

    :lol:

    if a hater wants to hate, he will find a way.
     
  2. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    No wonder Arum keeps it in house.
     
  3. Bubba

    Bubba Boxing’s not as popular as it used to be, right? Full Member

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    Cotto was Not selected as Manny's Next Opponent Because ... Cotto just got KO'ed by Manny and he'll get KO'ed quicker if they fight again.
     
  4. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LOL *****s are desperately trying to make Pac look bad coz Floyd Flew like a duck heading south.

    Keep trying *****faggots. Pac is still fighting, Floyd is still running!

    What's the difference between Pac and Floyd? Pac is a beast and Floyd is a *****.
     
  5. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You and I both know that what you said in bold above is really, really lame.

    Charlievint, you're smarter than this.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Lame" as in what folks would see as "Politically correct" lame...Meaning Manny would do it just to look like he was helping the sport...but I believe that 110%. Manny would have had a completely different stance and reaction had the messenger and the delivery been coming from someone who showed him "RESPECT"...

    What was lame was the entire foundation of the demands....and the whole reasoning Floyd gave. I believe he said he "wanted to clean up the sport" as opposed to singling out Manny whom earlier he used in his PED attacks.:lol:
     
  7. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Cotto wants to fight Pacquiao because he cheated but won't fight Margarito because he cheated.
     
  8. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In other words, you acknowledge that the first negotiations fell apart because of Manny's EGO. He simply didn't like how he was asked.

    So where was this when Pac defenders were making arguments about 'weakened by blood testing', 'following the commission's rules', Mayweather trying to get out of the fight, etc?
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nah....not at all. The original fight negotiations fell through b/c of Floyd's allegations and demands, where neither side could reach a mutual agreeable term regarding the stipulation on how close to the fight blood could be withdrawn.

    Floyd didn't ASK anything...he laid early foundation that was flimsy as hell with pushing that Manny was a doper....he roided up and was taking some special FLIP supplements which allowed him to improve to the level where he was mentioned as Floyd's potential opponent. That tee'd up the demands that Manny would have to agree with in order for Floyd to do his job and fight.:roll:

    If Floyd really wanted to fight and if Floyd REALLY was more concerned with Money than anything else he would have already faced Manny and gotten paid. He was the one along with his entire camp who said PAC was easy, a cake walk, Not on Floyd's level ect...ect..ect..

    Yet when it's time to get down to business he finds it in himself wanting to all the sudden "Clean up boxing"! And even more telling......completely contradict EVERYTHING his mouth said regarding PAC as being "HYPE" by demanding him take his special tests when he's never had to do that before.
     
  10. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All you've done here is offer reasons WHY Manny's EGO was offended.

    That still doesn't change the fact that based on YOU OWN statement on Manny's willingness to do 'stricter testing' if he was 'asked respectfully', Manny's EGO is why the first fight fell apart.
     
  11. Scott Hendrix

    Scott Hendrix New Member Full Member

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    I would think it had more to do with the fact the first fight was not even competitive ??? no need for a rematch !! Cheers !
     
  12. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto was not selected as Pacquiao's next opponent because Pacquiao is able to fight Margarito for a vacant 154 lbs belt.

    The only reason Pac was going to fight Cotto again so soon was to get a shot at another championship belt in a different division. Once it was determined that Pac could get a 154 lbs belt without fighting Cotto for it, Cotto was out of the picture. Didn't matter if Cotto wanted more testing or not.

    Pacquiao has not savagely destroyed Margarito the way he did Cotto. Pac-Margo was always the more natural fight at this moment, though I would not be surprised if Pacquiao does rematch Cotto eventually if Cotto can regain some of the luster which he lost in the Pacquiao beatdown.
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not his "EGO" bro...His ego was never affected but his character and his professonail accomplishments were placed in an unfair light, yet Manny still negotiated in order to make the fight.

    The reason the first fight fell apart was b/c neither side reached a mutual agreeable term regarding the time frame for administering blood tests close to fight night.
     
  14. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This statement is not in dispute.

    The question at hand is, WHY could they not reach a 'mutual agreeable term'. Even more pertinent is why would there need to be a timeframe at all considering, according to you, Manny has no problem with the testing that was requested.

    In your own words:

    And that still does not explain why someone who felt their 'character and his professonail accomplishments were placed in an unfair light', would respond by negotiating against something they, according to you, have no problem with. It seems real counterintuitive, unless it was, as stated before, ego driven.
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just wondering did it actaully cross the *******s minds that these guys really believe that Pac is on superman juice??? I mean a vast number of fighters have gone on record as saying they believe that Manny is on something. and the list grows with every passing fight and his refusal to submitt to testing. At some point these are questions that will have to be anwsered. I truely think that the fear of testing will run Manny out of boxing as the list of fighters that will fight him without testing grows. And at some point the tide will turn on Manny and REAL fans will what those questions answered as well. Right now most are in the "I dont think he is on anything" range. But that is already different then the "He isnt on anything" that most felt some time ago. I truely believe that only *******s believe whole heartedly that Pac is clean, everyone eles is in doubt, including the Floyd haters. Even though they wont admitt it until it happens with other fighters and this is a start with them turning thier back on the Cotto fight because of testing.