Cotto was Not selected as Manny's Next Opponent Because He was going to ask for OST's

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  1. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People seem to think that manny is above being dishonest. Who did they have talks with??? Because Arum even admitted that he never talked with anyone in Floyds camp. And was it in good faith, or was it a media play?? This are all questions that the answer to will never truely be known.

    My problem with the whole thing was right from the start when the word from Pac's camp was he would have no problem with any testing, but he then clearly had/has an issue with testing. The stance has changed, Arum said that "they" felt the issue was resolved, but how would he have known that if he wasnt in contact with the Mayweather camp.
     
  2. BoxingFan2010

    BoxingFan2010 Boxing Addict banned

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  3. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are we really surprised. I saw this scene back in December.
    Now *******s want to act all offended? Mayweather is not the only one who suspects Manny and/or supports stricter testing. Go figure.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    The lies continue from Void and his delusional fans. Pac will confront Void and his pals in a court of law. How many of Void's fans will testify under oath that Pac is a druggie? I bet they will not show up. Where is the evidence. Void never asked for extra drug testing until he ran from Pac. Void is a coward, plain and simple. Let Void prove his lies in a court of law and bring on his fans with their proof under oath.
     
  5. doknochrisan

    doknochrisan Puncher Full Member

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    Anyone would have defeated Cotto during that time.[/quote]

    including Paulie Malignaggi?
     
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  7. Davew430

    Davew430 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If the source is true and credible, it's making Pacquiao look a tad more guilty.

    I'm a Floyd fan, but then again i don't mind Pacquiao and will watch his fight with Margarito even though i render it pointless. The whole "negotiation" thing what happened the other week has as much proof and evidence about it as Mayweather's accusations of Pacquiao being on PED's has... Neither of them has die hard proof of what happened/going on, but *******s and Flamo's shot it at each other as if it's the bible.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If this doesn't expose Pac to these *******s nothing will.

    Cotto has had his career shortened by two cheats. That is foul.
     
  9. Danny

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    I don't care what anybody says, the fact is that IF Cotto has not be give a rematch with Pacquiao because he would have asked for the same blood tests as what Mosley/Mayweather had, then that leaves a lot to be desired in respect of Pacquiao!

    In relation to Mayweather vs Pacquiao negotiations, it would not surprise me if the reason it's gone out the window is because Floyd won't budge of the aspect of Olympic style testing!

    Something is wrong, there has to be!
     
  10. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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  11. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    only reason pacquiao said no to ost against cotto is becuase this would set a precedent against floyd... that he would have to follow
     
  12. jerryrard

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    Cotto lost bad to Pac already... Cotto-Mayweather might be a great challenge. We know Floyd won't fight Cotto as well.
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no doubt there were talks going on b/c of what Floyd himself stated along with DLH, Haymond and Greenberg. Floyd distances himself as a "defense" in case he needs to "check" out early on any given situation. Like the Allegations.....he said some things but left it up to his team to say most of the accusations taht led to the demands for drug testing.

    Just like with this round of negotiations....he let his team handle that for him like usual and when he decided NOT to take the fight he could claim there were NEVER negotiations. But he and 50 stated the biggest fight in boxing was on the horizon this year in a MTV interview not too long back....which supported DLH's statments and Arums statements along with Greenbergs statements.

    Floyd absolutely was in talks with team PAC....maybe not directly but typically that is up to his advisors and team. The actual boxers very seldom handle the negotiations directly at this level.
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The reason why they were not able to reach a mutal agreeable term is b/c both parties wanted something else. They were posturing and "sticking out their chests" as not wanting to be teh one to give in to the other. Manny just negotiating was Manny's "half way point" and Floyd wanted Manny to agree to his terms and they couldn't reach the medium.

    Manny doesn't have any problems with the tests themselves but doesn't feel Floyd has the right to dictate those commission demands on him based on his own accusations he couldn't support with any vaild evidence, proof or foundations.

    The only problem Manny had was how close to the fight blood could be withdrawn and that is understandable given he's always made claim that he doesn't like given up his blood close to one of his fights.

    So it was a little convienent that Floyd would ALL OUT THE BLUE come up with these allegations and demands knowing Manny had issues with giving Blood.

    How can someone's accomplishements and overall career not be affected on some level when somone as popular as Floyd voices these kinds of HARSH statments? Some people will hear it and make a surface level assumption and it cast doubts in some peoples minds.

    Doubts that even drug tests wouldn't be able to resolve in some peoples minds. The fact that Manny was negoitating on the durg tests says he wanted to make the fight knowing that Floyd was creating these obstacles as a way OUT or a way to dictate and control the pre fight negotiations. Either way Manny wasn't having it. And it had less to do with ego and more to do with Floyd himself.

    Ego is the whole purse split...who gets the lions share...ect...ect...ect.. The drug tests, allegations and things like that have to do with one party acting in a irresponsible way and the accused party taking a stance not allowing themselves to be taken advantage of.
     
  15. Concrete

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    How would Mayweather know that blood testing would kill the fight though? If Mayweather wanted to kill the fight from the first negotiations all he had to do was demand a higher purse. That would have been a sure fire way of killing the fight without the risk of Pac agreeing to the blood testing if Mayweather really wanted to kill the fight. Instead he agreed to 50/50 split and glove size. All he wanted was blood testing up to the fight which he again compromised to 14days.

    If you forget the names we are talking about. There is no justifiable reason for one fighter to not agree to blood testing especially for a fight of this magnitude. Even if you never cheated in the past who's to say neither fighter would cheat for that fight.