Cotto was Not selected as Manny's Next Opponent Because He was going to ask for OST's

This is funny because when he came out of retirement people were sayiing that he came out of retirment to fight smaller fighters like Pac and avoid guys like Mosley. This opinion of Mayweather being scared of everybody holds no wieght because people keep contradiction themselves and crying wolf every time Mayweather doesn't fight somebody. So if Mayweather was so scared of Mosley why was he walking him down and fighting toe to toe with him from the first rd instead of running like a lot of people claimed he would.

After all the trash that was talked about Mayweather ducking Mosley and that being proven wrong. Why am I to believe that he is scared of Pac and not genuinely just want the drug testing?

Maybe I should say Pac was scared of Cotto because he demanded a 145 catch weight rather then 147. Or that he was scared of Mosley because he demanded 140. Yet you would probably argue he was looking for a level playing field. Yet when Mayweather ask for a level playing field its because he wants a way out of the fight.

You also have no proof that Mayweather new of Manny's comfort level of drug testing. His problems with EM are only well documented now because of Manny's deinal today. And that was a blood test that Manny didn't even know he would have had to take. Its not like he was mentally ready for random blood testing vs EM. If Manny would have refused the test vs EM then that would make sense as a plan to kill the fight.

You are also ignoring or forgetting the roll that Pac and his camp did to create suspension. When Roach first said drug testing would be no problem then all of a sudden things are poping up all over the place about Manny's fear of blood testing. It seemed real fishy to regular observers so just how much more fishy did it seem to Mayweather. Pac and his camp made themselves look guilty by not sticking to one principal instead they were all over the place.

Plus Mayweather accepted all of Pac's demands which included glove size, 10million pd penalty for every pd over, purse split. All he wanted was testing that both guys would have to go through.

I think its as simple as Mayweather Sr thinking Pac was on something after the Cotto fight and telling his son to make sure he gets drug tested for there fight. I don't believe they went back and started studing all of Pac's past history to uncover his fear of having blood drawn in order to duck the fight. You are looking to stretch out a bad theory in order to put all the blame on Mayweather.

 

Excellent well thought out post.

 

Pacquiao was roided up to core.

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Pacquiao on some A-side meth.

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If Pac feels that blood testing puts him at a disadvantage why not ask for a catchweight fight at 145 then to even the playing field and 10mil penalty for every pd over.

Mayweather can get blood testing up to the fight. Pac can try to drain Mayweather.

Everybody wins.

 

The lulz is epic, Manny had two choices fight plasterfist for less money in Mexico or fight Cotto in Vegas. And he ran off and chose plasterfist (a guy who's career we aren't even sure is legit) because of OSDT, remove Pacquiao's **** from your mouth, if this story is legit then, Pacquiao is up to something.

 

Even Playing field ,just like in MLB the year of the pitchers are back ,with all the random testing done most ball players won't hit 50 + HR again ....Even Playing FIeld is all Cotto is asking.

 

Floyd's "WRAP" that he caught coming out of retirement was a over flow of what his wrap was before he retired. Floyd never fought a legit WW aside from Baldo whom no one really gave him props for. So when he came out of retirement they wanted Floyd to fight a true WW. Floyd stated he wanted to face PAC, then decided on JMM.

I never thought Floyd was scared of Shane....I knew he'd win. I thought it would be more competitve but Floyd did his thing and he deserves props....but he's not getting any props for his actions and lack ther of in facing Manny.

Floyd's own comments and actions regarding facing PAC is the only time I see Floyd "avoiding" someone. I didn't think he ducked anyone else b/c there were OTHER OPTIONS that were available that made sense. The fight with pac is his ONLY option that makes this kind of sense....so him doing everything he can to avoid facing Manny says one thing....he doesn't want it.

PAC didn't demand Cotto fight at 145....Cotto suggested that weight. And that didn't KILL the fight and it wasn't OUT OF THE NORM like Floyd accusations and demands were. If PAC used the catch weight to avoid facing Cotto then you could say he's scared...but Manny faced Cotto and won. He's not scared......just like Floyd faced Shane.....and he won....Floyd isn't scared of Shane.

I don't need any proof that Floyd knew Manny didn't like giving Blood....Just like Floyd didn't need any proof to start the rumors PAC was doping. But at the end of the day it's just a little suspect regarding the new stance Floyd had on cleaning up the sport and acting out of character starting accusations he couldn't support. The big question is "WHY"? Why **** up the chance at that kind of money knowing it would be an easy fight to make and in his own words an EASY fight to win against Manny. It makes NO sense at all.

PAC's problem with blood taken from him before the fight was well documented back in 2005! It's only brought up today b/c it leads people to have their own opinion on WHY floyd demanded Blood testing all out of the blue with just one fighter whom he said he WANTED to fight and expose as HYPE.

Roach saying there would be no problem with the drug tests was true. He didn't know that the blood tests would be all the way up to the day of the fight. Once that came to light they had their own request for a stipulation on how close to the fight blood could be withdrawn for the tests.

The glove size was agreed to by both parties the weight penalty was just as stupid as the allegations and the demands. Given that the weight was 147! Floyd won't have problems making that weight....had the fight been 144! That would be a different story b/c of what happened with JMM.

Floyd makes it easy to lay the majority of blame on him b/c he was the one who created ALL the obstacles in making the fight when normally he's not difficult to get in the ring. With Manny he seems to want to avoid facing him even though is mouth says something compeltely different than what his actions prove.

 

Quick question...Why do all the Pac supporters call the accusations (drug testing request) baseless? Granted Pac has never failed a test, but if he had than it wouldn't be an accusation it would be a fact. And last I checked the accusation couldn't be proven or become a fact without him being tested…which he is refusing.

OK, Ok I understand they all feel these accusations derived from Mayweather Senior, but in analyzing the situation (we live in the steroid era, Pac is achieving feats never thought possible, Pac has moved up in weight, but maintained attributes normally loss with weight gain and fighting bigger men, and most importantly Pac refused random testing) how can you conclude the accusations baseless. There is reason to believe… whether you agree with the reasoning or not is debatable, but there have been things to cause people (boxing fans, boxing writers, and professional boxers) to believe that he may be using PEDS...How then are the accusations baseless??

I’m not saying Pac has/was/is using PED’s I just don’t get how the questions/accusation could be called baseless…nor do I understand how so many people can be so firmly against drug testing.

 

Not at all! Accusations usually have a source....proof or evidence to support the allegations. It wouldn't be a FACT if the source or the evidence was circustantial or unable to be verified or proven. The accusations Floyd made were BASELESS B/c they came from NO WHERE and had nothing to support the comments.

And the "TESTING" wouldn't prove without a shadow of a doubt that Manny or Floyd were clean or dirty. There are NO tests that 100% resolve a fighter as being clean or dirty.

PAC has done well but to say he hasn't gotten slower or his power hasn't diminsihed at all is further from the truth. PAC was definitly faster and more powerful at 126 or 130 than he is at 147. He's got ONE incredible KO against Hatton but the rest have all been systmeatically beat down into submission.

THE VAST Majority don't think Manny or Floyd are dirty fighters...the only reason why folks have that notion is b/c the Maywether camp spread the lies and demanded the tests and caught a little traction but the majority see it as Floyd's way in DUCKING the fight. I can't blame the majority b/c I see the same thing.

I don't think anyone is firmly against drug testing....they are in place now and they catch dopers without bringing in the USADA or WADA to conduct the tests. The rumors are baseless b/c it lacks any solid foundation....which in a court of law....baseless accusations that are NOT supported by any reliable source or evidence gets thrown out and for good reason!

 

The wrap was BS though because he fought DLH at 154pds which is greater then fighting a legit WW. And you can say his comments and actions vs Mosley made him supposedly scared or avoiding Mosley.

I think since Mayweather Sr brought up the fact that Pac may be on something. Mayweather proposed the drug testing in the contract possibly for his father who had concerns. I think the way that Pac and his camp reacted is the reason why negotiations became so crazy as they made themselves look guilty. It wasn't as smooth as you stated, there was different reasons popping up every 2 days. If Pac agrees to the blood testing then it would have went as smooth as the Mosley fight. If they would have came out and stuck to one principal then I think Mayweather wouldn't have been on the attack more in stressing the drug testing as much and possibly allow the 22-30 days window. But the fact that they acted so suspicious made Mayweather and his camp really believe he was on something. Its only an obstacle because of Pac's fear of blood being drawn and his superstition of it weakening him. Thats not Mayweather's fault. As its not a medical fact that blood being drawn weakens you. It wasn't an obstacle for Mosley. If Pac agreed to 14days we would have had a fight already then it wouldn't have been an obstacle.

The glove size was in Pac's favor of 8 or 10 ounce compared to Mayweathers favor of 10-12 ounce. If Mayweather wanted to kill the fight though he could have turned down the 10mil penalty to get out of the fight. The point is he wanted the fight but he also wanted drug testing. He didn't look to kill the fight by basing his whole plan of killing the fight to drug testing while agreeing to everything else.

I don't think Mayweather was accusing Pac of anything when he first presented the drug testing. I think it was just to make sure it was an even playing field and cover himself since his father raised suspicion, that's it. Pac and his camp made themselves look guilty and then took it as Mayweather accusing them of taking steroids. By looking suspicious Mayweather then really did start accusing them of taking steroids based on there reaction.

 

Lmfao!!!!

Pacquiao is the next mark mcguire!

In 8 years he gonna be doin an interview with ESPN TALKING ABOUT "STEROIDS DID NOT HELP ME KNOCK THOSE GUYS OUT"

 

Great post.

You notice how we don't see posts calling Mayweather a runner all the time. So the haters have to find something, so now he is scared.

And great point on the Snr comment. I've been saying this from the beginning. No doubt Snr saw something in the Hatton fight which he didnt like and said drop the testing issue in to negotiations to see how the Pac camp react. Guess what, they took the bait hook, line and sinker.

 

hate to see floyd counter that...floyd is quicker and has better timing than jmm..he also has a much longer reach than jmm and a better chin....his footwork is more confusing than jmm's too..plus floyd is one of the best ive ever seen at using his footwork to turn and not let his opponents get angles on him....

Floyd counter pac all night...this u cant deny ...

 

again, those choices are plan B.

His plan A or first choice went on vacation.