Cotto

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Silent_Assassin, Nov 25, 2011.


  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I even forgot to mention the fact that he took Yuri Foreman's title from him at 154 in a fight nobody thought he would win directly after he fought Pacquiao, after Pacquiao himself chose to avoid the same fighter. He made Foreman cave and **** up his knee after controlling the first 6 rounds of the fight out-jabbing the taller and more mobile man and effectively pressuring him. A less than tasteful end, but a deserved win and his third title in his third weight-class.

    Like others said, he's not even done yet.

    Did the OP call me a dumbass for saying Cotto gave Pacquiao his toughest fight since Marquez 2 because he was behind on the cards by the end of the fight? Go talk to Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and the doctor that had to repair Pacquiao's ruptured ear-drum, then come back here and call me a dumbass.
     
  2. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    Foreman did beat Santos, the man who gave Margarito trouble each time.

    Lol, for me the funniest thing is giving Cotto a hard time for being with Arum, when Mayweather was with Arum too. :rofl
     
  3. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    :lol: Trust me, dude. Ignore list is the way to go here. This guy has proven unworthy of our time and frustration, and vastly superior knowledge and logic.
     
  4. Kayo-Kid

    Kayo-Kid Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how about adding undeafeated kelson pinto, gold medallist mohamed abdullaev, yury foreman, mayorga, carlos maussa, joshua clottey and he beat alfonso gomez wayyyyy better than canelo

    :hi:
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :good

    He had to really fight through that cut against Clottey and came out the better man in the championship rounds there. Good shout-outs in Maussa and Abdullaev. And yea, I had Gomez up actually against Canelo.
     
  7. Ilesey

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    Owned. :lol:
     
  8. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Exactly. The list goes on with Cotto. Hopefully he can cap off a great career with a victory over the man who inflicted his first loss.
     
  9. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In order of significance, IMHO...

    Mosley
    Quintana
    Bailey
    Malignaggi
    Torres
    Clottey
    Judah
     
  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :lol: :good
     
  11. carras

    carras Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nuff said
     
  12. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think your question should have been answered through out some posts already. But the answer (imo) is that there is not one single name opponent that gives Cotto credibility to make it to the hall of fame. But that's good. Because "earning" your accolades from one perfomance is the perfect way to overrate a fighter. It doesn't show consistency through out a career, approach to different styles, willingless to fight anybody, etc. Take for example Floyds victory over Shane (this is not a knock on Floyds resume which is absolutely excellent), people constantly overrate his victory because Shane was coming off an awesome victory over Margarito. But the truth is Shane had fought a fighter taylor made for him that had just been caught cheating. After that, Shane had a year long layoff, was preparing for another fighter who pulled out pretty close to the fighting date, and then he just went straight to Floyd. I can't believe somehow people expected him to beat Floyd (I did not pick Shane for that fight by the way). The same case could be said for Floyd's fight against Marquez which was just a tune up and does not deserve the credit it gets that Floyd beat the p4p#3 fighter in the world because Marquez was terribly undersized and not ready to face someone like Floyd at welterweight.

    From the top of my head the best prime fighter Cotto beat was Joshua Clottey. First off, the fight should have been a unification match, Clottey was pretty avoided, and Cotto fought him to a very close fight with a rookie corner (first time without his uncle) and a terrible cut. Not his best victory (although impressive still under the circumstances), but that was Cotto fighting the best available opponent at the time, like he did pretty much through out most of his career. If you really want to know what makes Miguel Cotto a potential hall of fame fighter look at his resume... he has won major titles in three different weight divisions (the most any PR fighters has ever done), fought better opposition than what most fighters do (most just get buy on the "big name" they beat to defend their claim instead of just fighting the best fighters around), and his losses have been against great fighters. Margarito was terribly avoided and made great fighters look the other way instead of facing him, and there is also the possibility of him defeating Cotto by cheating. The other fighter is none other than Manny Pacquiao, so enough said.
     
  13. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    TS a ******ed fieldmouse.:nut
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Three of his four belts have come against undefeated fighters, one a hot prospect with a huge knockout ratio, one was a reigning champion, one was a future champion-who took Paul Williams' 0. Cotto has faced six undefeated fighters across three weight classes, 5 of them have major world titles attached to their records. He's 31-years-old, won 16 major world title fights, four-time titlist, beaten six undefeated fighters, 13 former/future/current world champions. 16-2 in major world title fights/13-2 against world champions. He's apparently had it quite easy as a protected commodity. :good
     
  15. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Keep going, guys. I enjoy seeing the OP repeatedly assraped over this.