Cotto's legacy?

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I dont know where i have him RATED exactly....

    But i think his legacy is that of a world class, upper echelon warrior, who took on the best of his era, and won most of his big fights. Who went about his buisness in a model manner, never bitching about money or making excuses as to this or that.

    It will be bittersweet when he retires, and he will always be one of my favorite fighters of all time.
     
  2. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    cotto is like the curry or simon brown of this era, good but not great. He's a notch below the real greats(floyd, pac). Cotto has been overrated on this boards for a long time, he's a good puncher but his power has been overrated. After foreman, i don't see him winning against anyone at 154, might as well call it quits.
     
  3. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The crazy part as you mention top level greats such as Floyd. I think many such as myself have more respect for Cotto than Floyd anyday. With Cotto's opponents I feel it would have been hard to stay undefeated and not get damage little by little and that goes to any fighter.
     
  4. littlefloyd

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    People tend to forget that floyd's career started at 130, and i'd pick most of the guys there who floyd beat to beat cotto on a p4p basis(mythical matchups). Cotto started at 140 so it makes sense that he would have a better resume there. Plus the odlh that floyd beat at 154, would beat the **** out of cotto
     
  5. RealBoxing

    RealBoxing Kill The Nonsense Full Member

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  6. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always give Mayweather credit for his fights under welterweight. But honestly he hasn't face a true threat since his fight with Judah in that weight class. But like I said Cotto's opponents would break down any fighter little by little esp. how Arum rush some of his last few fights. Mayweather has been campaining in the welterweight class since 2004. That's more than enough time to face at least a Collazo or Cintron. Im real happy thogh finally he has a match with Mosley now. This could help quiet some critics. But once again like I stated before, Cotto has more respect than Mayweather at this moment in the boxing world.
     
  7. JMP

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    Curry's resume might not be great, but at his best, he was a great fighter. Twice as good as miguel.
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Unlike Floyd, Cotto faced all opposition he possibly could and I tip my hat off to him he's a warrior.
     
  9. SoxNation

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    I don't remember this "warrior" going after Paul Williams or even Floyd. I read an interview a while back where Cotto said Williams would have to build his name up before that fight took place. Does that sound familiar? All of Cotto's titles have been vacant titles, including the one he got after Williams was wrongfully stripped.

    Mayweather did try to fight Pacquiao, he is fighting Mosley and tried to a few years back. According to Arum, he agreed to fight Margarito, Cotto, Hatton, and De La Hoya as part of a four fight deal, but they couldn't agree on the amount of money he would get for the fights after the Margarito fight. So, it wasn't completely his fault those fights were never made.
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He is a warrior in the ring and do you really think Floyd really wanted the Margarito fight to begin with? The easiest path was Baldomir and he knew that.
     
  11. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto's a "warrior"? Warriors run from much smaller fighters? Warriors run and quit like he did against Margarito? You also said he fought all of the opposition he possibly could, but ignored my part about Williams I see.

    Baldomir was THE Champion am I right? Would you fight the champion for 8 million or a nobody for 8 million? On an ESPN article Arum said Mayweather accepted the deal. Why would Arum lie for Mayweather?
     
  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    :lol: Why are you so confrontational dude chill out! What's this hate you have for Cotto? He is the same person that could've quit against Clottey and Pac but continued to stay in there running or not. And c'mon beating Margarito would've done more for Mayweather than Baldomir title or not.
     
  13. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not confrontational, I just enjoy debates from time to time. I don't hate Cotto, but I've always thought he was vastly overrated and it's weird how he gets credit for doing things other fighters do and no criticism when he does negatives. He gets credit for fighting with a cut for goodness sakes and we here how he's a warrior for quitting. How does that make sense? He didn't "quit" against Manny, but all of that running and his refusal to engage shows me that he basically quit.
     
  14. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Now we're talking. No problems man I'm a fan of Floyd & Cotto(Cotto more) so I had to defend my man time from time but admit his faults too. He tends to break down when he knows his opponent is applying pressure(Pac, Marg, even the last rounds against Mosley) and doesn't know how to clinch. I agree he is overated and even I go "WHAT?!?" when people consider him an all time great or HOF'er. Those accolades belong to more deserving boxers such as Gomez or even Benitez.
     
  15. SoxNation

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    Cotto's not a bad fighter at all. I just see his faults like I do with any fighter. He seems like a respectable guy and I understand why people root for him. In my opinion he gets too much of a pass. I've criticized fighters that I root for when it's deserved. Zab Judah is one of my favorites so I can see what you mean by breaking down under pressure. I've always said Cotto needs to stay off the ropes and learn to clinch when needed. Doing those things would help him take less punishment. Had he done those things against Margarito he could have won that fight.