Cotto's Resume vs. Floyd's Last 10 fights

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  1. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    Ok lets all be honest. I was bored so I tried to do some minor research and look at the two objectively. Now dont all get your panties in a bunch about the rankings. These came from four different sources, all internet and all supposed archives of the rankings all the way back to as far as 2000. As I look at both resumes Cottos opponents were 284-20 with 2 former world champions on his resume. Cotto and Judah. All the other belts were won by Cotto were VACATED titles. The WBO title was a vacant title as well as the WBA. The top ranked opponent on Cottos resume was Paulie who UNCONFIRMED Ranking at the time was 3. (This is only unconfirmed because I could not find more than one website or source that would agree with the ABC's current ranking at that time). There was no ranking for Gianluca Branco, that I could find so I didnt know where to put him.

    Floyds opponents were 368-33 with 5 current or former world titlist on the resume. Floyd obtain all of his title by beating the current belt holder with the exception of the belt that Baldomir could not afford to keep. He fought Zab for that then fought Baldormir for the actual title. He took Gatti's title then moved up. Took a tune up with Mitchell, fought a just beaten Zab, beat Baldi for his title, beat Oscar for his "title" and defended his WBC belt against Ricky. According to the INTERNET, and Several Boxings Archives Floyd while he hasnt cleaned out any division, he has fought what seems to be tough competion.

    Even if we take the same time span of fights from Floyds, meaning fights 18 -30 like Cottos, youd have to compare his list to Floyds list which would add Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales and two Jose Luis Castillo fights. Which in reality would really outshine anything cotto has done at this point. Now in all objectivity there doesnt seem to be any comparison of the two. The thing that goes against Floyd is his only fighting one or two time a year. That sux for us but for him its business and what can we say.

    What also goes against Floyd is his decision to box and not KO every opponent much the way Cotto destroys his opponents. However this is also a negative for Cotto because according to the research non of these guys are top tier. Sugar Shane was a great win, but at 36 its no different than Floyd fighting DLH.

    Some have even said that Cotto has a better WW record but to date he has only faced 2 of the top 10 WW; the same number as Floyd. We may not like the comp but Zab bought the belt and lost and Baldomir won the belt and lost. Please dont mention Urkal in the same sentence with Judah and Mosely plus Floyd would have KO'd Judah if not for the Low Blow and Shane had a toothache so we dont know what would've happened.

    Other notes: Cotto wont fight anywhere away from a heavy P-Rican population. And has been the recipient of two questionable fights. He didnt clearly beat Corley. Anyone who saw the fight saw Corley take the knee and the Puerto Rican ref stopped the fight. The SSM was not a clear win either and righfully so.

    Floyd doesnt seem to want to leave Vegas as he is star struck and that is his hometown.

    Overall question:
    Can anyone really tell me by looking at the competion and/or resumes that you give Cotto a SERIOUS chance to beat FLOYD if they fought TOMORROW? Dont use your love for Cotto and Hatred for Floyd or vice versa to make your case. Just look at the facts. Floyd, with the exception of JLC 1 and DLH who was 16 pounds heavier looks the same with all of his comp handpicked or not: spectacular. Cotto look absolutely the same, BUT according to MINOR research its against LESSER TIER COMPETION.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this novel. Since they cancelled Rob and Big, I dont have much to do!
     
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  2. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd has a better overall resume than Cotto.

    Cotto has a better Welterweight resume than Floyd.

    And if Cotto beats Margarito, he will, in essence, have beaten all the well-established upper-tier fighters in the division other than Mayweather. While plenty think he's already doing it, if Floyd doesn't fight Cotto at that point, he is openly ducking him.
     
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  3. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good post...good to see someone taking the time to compare the two objectively.
     
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  4. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great post :good

    As I've said many times, even the Floyd Hater Bitches (FHB's) know that Floyd would thump this dude around the ring, and that the p4p number 1 has taken on the better competition throughout his career suffering far less damage then Cotto. Floyd went out and beat Oscar with a double punch count and a double percentage landed. Cotto goes out and runs from Mosley(supposed to be a slugger) and lands the same with Mosley landing more power shots I believe. Silly comparison. A proven champ against a guy who just took on a friggin reality tv show contestant. Somebody pray for your boy against Margarito.
     
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  5. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Cotto has fought better fighters at 147 being more active and having higher quality fights.

    Cotto -Quintana, Urkal, Judah, SSM, and Gomez all since 12/06 to PRESENT! Margarito for this summer while Floyds facing DLH.
    Floyd has fought Judah, Baldo, DLH, and Hatton from 04/06 to PRESENT

    Thats 3-2 in top WW's, which could be 4-2 after Margarito.:good
    Cotto is without doubt THE #1 contender who will have basically cleaned 47. The only thing left is the fight. I'll be damned for eternity if Hatton deserves a second shot OVER Cotto:-( :-(

    Good post in that you spent time and had a nice presentation. But does one really need projections at this point? The records and accomplishments are CLEAR. The only way 2 find out is when the bell rings:good

    Cotto's doint it at 147, Floyd's doin it again 2 re-runs.:-(
     
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  6. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: Boy oh boy your a bum. Cotto fought Quintana, Judah and Mosley. Floyds fought Hatton, Judah and Baldo. urkal? :rofl :rofl

    Listen chump, Mayweathers win over De La Hoya means more because he actually won that fight. Cotto scored a draw against Mosley. Because when you land the same amount of punches and the other guy lands more power shots, thats a draw, he may have looked pretty running away from Mosley but that dont win fights, the Judges needed a new golden boy and they got him. Besides that, you cant honestly say ones welterweight record is better then the others. No doubt you will cuz your a chump, but look at the facts.

    Stop pmsing over whether Floyd will paste this guy. Its going to happen, just make sure you remind Cotto not to get his ass dusted against Margarito. Margarito will finish his ass unlike Torres and Corley should have done.
     
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  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You said look at that facts right after changing the actual outcome of a fight to make your point:rofl:rofl

    Cotto beat Mosley. Mayweather beat DLH. Mosley beat DLH too.....
     
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  8. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    STFU you 16 year old twat:good

    Cotto's cleaned the division while floyd's playing games:scaredas:
     
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  9. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, only difference is Floyd BEAT Oscar. The other 3 are disputed.
     
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  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By SD....sounds disputed to me.

    Cotto won by UD. Mosley won by UD and SD. Those are the facts, which is what you want to go by.
     
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  11. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mosley admitted he lost the fight because he's a nice guy. The punch stats say other wise. Mosley chasing Cotto around the ring say otherwise. The power shots 177-150 say otherwise.
     
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  12. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Sorry Super Lips Prime SSM vs Prime DLH was fought at147 and there was NO DISPUTE!! SSM beat DLH:good
     
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  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do the punch stats say about Castillo vs Mayweather 1 ?
     
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  14. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    If SSM was Chasing Cotto? what the **** was Baldo doing to Mayweather:lol:

    I tell ya, FLOYD FANS are the worst:good
     
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  15. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golden Boy judges. The fight was over after the 8th.

    Sorry my facts go deeper. Mosley outlanded Cotto rounds 6-5 with one even. Mosley outlanded Cotto power shots rounds 9-3.

    Wheres the W? I dont see it? :nono
     
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