DING DING DING! We have a winner! :rofl :rofl Seriously you are brilliant man. You said what I've been trying to say all along, just more eloquently. Why is Mosley rated higher then Oscar? Why is Oscar suddenly not rated at all? Why is Cottos win at 147 against Mosley more deserving of praise then Mayweathers win over Oscar at 154? Madness I tell you. Or Floyd hater bitches. Take your pick lol.
:rofl :rofl :rofl Ding, ding, ding we have a real winner on our hands SSM beat Floyd clearly the first time. Talk all the horse **** ya like, WTF does that have to do with not fighting Cotto anyway? Cotto won UNANAIMOUS:yep Floyd will beat DLh again and DLh was never the better man of SSM and DLh in their primes.:good
It was a close fight, clean win?? yes, but not dominate. The second fight was even closer. If one were to make something of that you might say that Shane was sliding before Oscar:hey I dont believe that, but some of you guys simple mold things into a shape that promotes your agenda. If you were honest with yourself you would have to admitt that shane and oscar are pretty equal fighters. However that really isnt the point. Point is we have seen Cotto get more credit for beatting the same guy that Floyd did, so in the end it wouldnt matter to you, now would it:good Cotto has fought better because you and other like you have deemed it so...and thats the bottom line...End of story:hi:
Ummn, it could have something to do with Oscar being schooled by Felix Sturm and receiving a gift decision in the process. Then getting KTFO in controversial fashion by Hopkins. Oscar arguably lost 3 fights in a row before taking on Mayorga. But I guess a win of Mayorga put him back in business, huh? Yet, the very thought of Cotto facing Mayorga has been heavily criticized by Floyd fans. Still, without Mayorga Floyd wouldn't be holding his "6th title in 5th weight class"
cotto has the better resume 140-147. He beat 2 current champs at LWW(i.e malignaggi and torres) who were in their prime. 1 current champ at WW quintana. Floyd, outpointed DLH at Jr.MW, took on a 140 lber hatton at 147 where he should fought hatton at 140 instead. We can take out judah since they both have judah on the list. And the only fighter there is for floyd is baldomir. So its clearly cotto. But overall resume..floyd wins
DLH was NOT schooled by Felix Sturm. Maybe he lost the fight, but at the end of the day there were three judges at ringside who all gave him the decision, so not much else matters. Floyd's win over Hatton was very impressive IMO - not many people have dared fight Hatton like that, the rest have been taken apart, though his win would have looked more impressive had it been at 140, which of course is Hatton's playground. Cotto is a natural WW, whereas Floyd could be described as a manufactured one, though he carries the move up in weight exceptionally well. He has wins over some very good welters, Quintana and SSM, Zab has been caned a few times, whilst Floyd has wins over Baldomir, Hatton and DLH - two naturally bigger guys and one out of his comfort zone, so it is difficult to say. If they were to get in there, Cotto would make it difficult for a while, but I would back Mayweather to figure him out by the sixth and grind out a UD - as he has done against pretty much all his recent opponents.
I think PBF will outpoint Cotto, however, I don't rule out Cotto seriously hurting PBF and possibly Knocking TFO of him. Cotto should have a sign on him that says DANGER STAY BACK 500 FEET. Even with his incredible defense and speed, I don't see PBF avoiding Cotto's punches all night.
Fanstastic post!:clap I appreciate your time and effort. Hopefully it will open the eyes of those who say PBF doesn't fight anyone bull****.
Floyd's win over Oscar is hands down better than Cotto's over Mosley. Floyd fought Oscar at least 2 weights above his prime weight whereas Cotto fought Mosley at Cotto's prime weight. Cotto narrowly beat Mosley (I had him winning, but it was close) Floyd easily beat DLH (split decision my arse!) As a side note, Cotto has lots of years left to bulk out his resume so no point really comparing it to Floyd, who is at the end of his career
Great post. Mayweather's resume is better, but a lot of those guys were washed up. Cotto's resume is hot shot boxers. Still, i would take Mayweather over Cotto, just looking at those resume.
:? Did you even see the fight? Sturm couldn't miss Oscar. He peppered him all night with jabs and right hands. Then switched to southpaw and landed straight lefts at will. In the middle rounds, Oscar was telling Floyd Sr. "I can't move." His fight with Luis Collazo suggests otherwise.
Out of Cotto's last 5 fights he only has one fighter that has acheived something of recent ... and 0 fighters that have achieved something before they fought Cotto. Mosley and Judah hold the most weight but in Judah's case he was coming off 2 L's and a NC ... Mosley hadn't won a WW title since he beat DLH in 2000so it was a 7 year gap between him winning a WW title and the next time he fought for one. That really says alot about those two ... I don't understand how someone can say that his WW resume is better when he hasn't fought anyone. Take a look at his last 10 fights ... only fighter even close to fighting Mayweather is SM ... he already beat Judah. How does PBF win over Judah never gets considered when factoring in his WW resume? How come Cotto has never beat a reigning champion when Floyd beat 3 since fighting at WW?
You called into question the judges. You called them "Golden Boy Judges" when I said the DLH-PBF match was an SD. Compubox stats are certainly not facts. Saying that gives me alot of insight into your actual knowledge of the sport. People counting punches and hitting a button certainly isn't an infallible system. And if you can imply biased judging, well....BTW, the judges decision are facts, even if based on subjective criteria. As for your last statement. Amazing. To even be discussing this in this context, you have to be ignoring the fact that Mosley beat DLH 2 times and Cotto beat Mosley. You are trying to argue that they aren't real wins. But you want to argue "picking and choosing facts"? You're out of your depth here. Go talk to someone more your speed.