Cotto's Resume vs. Floyd's Last 10 fights

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  1. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So what rankings are these??? They cant be the ring rankings
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    DLH at 154
    Judah IBF
    Baldomir WBC
    Hatton former WBA WW champ only months removed from vacating his title.
     
  3. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are these Boxrec rankings!!!!!????
     
  4. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Murderer's row. I mean Tata Baldomir? So what he had around 9 losses and 6 draws, he had a belt. Nevermind Ricky Hatton was a junior welterweight, who arguably lost in his only performance at 147 and looked so bad he scurried his little "midget" (aint that what Floyd called him during 24/7?) ass back down to 140. And then the always dependable Zab Judah, who was coming off a loss to the aforementioned Tata. Not to mention, the part time crossdresser/promoter/fighter who had fought 6 rounds in 3 years, winning his title against an opponent who has been dubbed as a disgrace for a potential fight with Cotto. Spare me.
     
  5. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Boxing isnt a numbers game. Its not baseball. We wont know how the fight goes down until it actually happens. :deal
     
  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I'm not as impressed with your post as others here are. Its clear you have your own biases and they have entered your thinking in this analysis. You dismiss many of Cotto's wins (like his win against Corley not being "clear", as if you couldnt see where that fight was going).

    You also compare the competition of a prime fighter vs. a fighter that is coming up through the ranks. Floyd SHOULD have spent the past few years fighting superior competition. Younger fighters go through a developemental stage before fighting the guys at the top. Of course, Cotto is now reaching the point of fighting this type of competition. If he fights Margarito next, that will make Margarito, Mosely, and Judah three of his last four fights. If he fights Mayweather following that, that would be heavier competition during a two or three year period that Floyd has faced at any juncture. Now, he hasn't fought those fights, so I won't give him that credit. But I am showing you how you can easily show the other side of the arguement.

    Your last question that I highlited shows your bias transparently. You act as if an arguement can't be made for a Cotto win based on competition and resume.
     
  7. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Who ranked Gatti #1 at junior welterweight when Hatton was the reigning champion at the time?
     
  8. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton= undisputed 140 lbs champion
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Bull****. Mosely is still a fighter, he isn't a traveling freakshow promoter who fights once a year or two to sustain his name and further his promotion company.

    Mosely is by far the more effective fighter at this point.
     
  10. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was #1 when Floyd fought him according to Ring. It was after his destruction of Leija and 2nd round kayo of dorin.
     
  11. Druid

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    You would say anything to try and win this point. Why not just wait for the fight to occur. Cotto is fighting Margo, which PBF avoided doing u'r argument doesn't hold water.
     
  12. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Grap and Fitz simply have no credibility. I suggest you guys don't even argue with them.
     
  13. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overall, Floyd has the better resume out of the 2 fighters, but I think Cotto's Welterweight resume is more impressive than Mayweather's is. Cotto has beaten 2 former Undisputed Welterweight Champions in Zab Judah and Shane Mosley and destroyed Quintana who just recently upset Williams who was considered to be the next big thing at Welterweight. Floyd has also beaten 2 former undisputed Welterweight champions in Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir, but I really don't can't see Judah nor Baldomir being able to beat Mosley at anytime. The thing is why did Floyd decide to fight Hatton in December when Hatton's last performance at 147 was arguably a loss against a non elite opponent? If Mayweather plans on boxing for a few more years, then he definitely has to face the winner of Cotto-Margarito or he will lose a lot more respect than he already has.
     
  14. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good

    I enjoyed the first post. More sense than a number of the replies, such as the last post.
     
  15. Gandul

    Gandul Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First of all I got to say great post!! :thumbsup Also, I love Rob & Big so I am sad as well! :-( But I will like to take a moment and go thru your post and really debate couple of things.

    1. Sugar Shane was a great win, but at 36 its no different than Floyd fighting DLH. Sorry, but I really feel that at this point SSM has more in the tank in comparison to ODLH. A) SSM beated ODLH to start with 2 times!! B) I believe that SSM has been more active in comparison to ODLH recently.

    2. Other notes: Cotto wont fight anywhere away from a heavy P-Rican population. And has been the recipient of two questionable fights. He didnt clearly beat Corley. Anyone who saw the fight saw Corley take the knee and the Puerto Rican ref stopped the fight. The SSM was not a clear win either and righfully so.

    Man, you can't hold this against Cotto. A) He doesn't make the decision on where he is going to fight, that Bob's job so please let's not penalize the guy for it.

    I agree with you on the Corley fight. It was stop too soon but what was the 2nd fight? you mention that we received 2 questionable fights.

    Definately the SSM fight was a clear win. Even SSM accepts the decision of what happen so please take that away from the post.

    3. Can anyone really tell me by looking at the competion and/or resumes that you give Cotto a SERIOUS chance to beat FLOYD if they fought TOMORROW?

    I definately give him a chance and here is why...
    1. Cotto at WW is stronger and has greater pounching power in comparison to PBF.

    2. At WW PBF has not fight an oponent in his pick. He has fought people who really do not have a chance of beating him with the exception of ODLH.

    I believe that the fight will play out like this... You will see PBF doing his foot work (which is greater by the way) being on the defensive most of the time trying to counter punch, fighting backwards and trying to make Miguel look for him all the time. You will see Miguel trying to cut the ring presuring Floyd and getting him against the robes. One thing that I saw against ODLH was that when Floyd is on the defensive he stops throwing pounches :huh... If Miguel is able to put him on the defensive and make him stop trowing punches I believe that Miguel can work on his body, slow Floyd and wear him down.

    What do you guys think? I don't think the fight will be one sided but I don't see Floyd's quicknes being higher than Cotto's power punch since he has good reflexes, decent speed and decent foot work.