Cotto's win over Mosley is better than Floyd's over DLH

I was about to begin a thread about this. Also, Floyd won an SD(he won 8-4 in my card) over a more over the hill fighter in Oscar, while Cotto got a deserved UD(won 7-4-1even in my card but he could have won by more had he fought like he did against Judah) against a WAY MORE GAME Shane Mosley by outboxing him.

 

Good point except that you have to take into account that Floyd is a small WW who went up to JMW and had a 10+ lb. weight disadvantage. You also you have to consider not just the judging in both fights but also the numbers. Floyd landed almost double the punches DLH did. He also landed over 50% of his power shots while DLH landed about 20%. DLH landed no meaningful punches outside of a jab.

In the Cotto fight, they both landed the same amount of punches. Cotto landed about 32% of his power shots while Mosely landed about 53%. Mosely landed plenty of hard rights and body shots.

Despite this, Mayweather won a SD while Cotto won a UD. How does that work? You could argue for days over this topic, and both sides could make some good points. Personally, I thought Mayweather's victory was more impressive. He went up in weight, was the much smaller man, and I scored the fight 9-3 Mayweather. Cotto, on the other hand, was fighting in his weight class, was not at much of a size disadvantage and I scored the fight a draw.

 

The thing is that NEITHER looked GREAT in the ring against older, more experienced fighters, but I believed Cotto performed better for the kind of opponent Mosley was, he was more of a threat to Cotto than DLH was a threat to Mayweather.

 

Floyd actually deserved the win.

 

I'm not saying he didn't...

 

Cotto beat a more active and dangerous 30 year old.

 

I just want to explain one thing about punch stats. I read alot of people on this sight angry that Cotto won start with the "Mosely outlanded Cotto in punch stats". "Mosely was robbed". People forget that boxing is a sport. It is judged by 12 rounds. If a fighter has a excellent round he can land the majority of those punches stated in 1 or 2 rounds. Does that earn him more points for that round??? No...he gets the same amount of points whether he lands 2 or 62. Thats why punch stats really mean nothing.

 

What I believe was impressive was that Cotto beat Mosley the way that I thought he would have no chance to beat him, and that way was something called outboxing. Mayweather did the expected, he did what he does in almost every fight. But Cotto stepped to another level, he outboxed Mosley even in some of the rounds where he was backpedalling. The only thing i did not like about Cotto's performance was the last round. Had he won it decisively, there would be no threads stating that Mosley got robbed and that everyone with knowledge recognizes this.

 

Very good point.

 

Well, considering that Floyd was moving up to 154 and he's a natural 130 pounder, and considering that many think Mosley was robbed, I would say that Mayweather's win is much better.

 

Many dumbasses thought Oscar was robbed too. And by the way, these "many" people are either Floyd fans or Shane fans.

 

Who is many...Mosely fans? Just like there were dozens who swore Dela Hoya pulled it off too

 

I have heard that many think that fight was close. But after Mosley-Cotto I saw many things that I didn't saw after Floyd-Oscar. I saw a lot of threads -by dumbasses, I agree- that said "Mosley was robbed", "Gift decision by Cotto", "Cotto ran in the last three rounds".

Anyways, I think Floyd's win is better. Mainly because he was going up to 154 and started at 130.

 

Your're arguing a point I'm not making, and no Mosely did not outland Cotto in punchstats. They landed exactly the same amount of punchers according to punchstat. Punchstats aren't everything. However, if guy lands almost double the amount of punches as his opponent, there's a good chance that he legitamately won the fight. On the other hand, if two fighters land the same amount of punches, there's a good chance that it was a close fight. Furthermore, powershots landed paint an even bigger picture of how the fight went. I personally had the Cotto fight a draw.

When I watch a fight, I judge it on a round by round basis. The punchstats usually do however give a good indication of how the fight went.