Could a lighter man fight in a heavyweight division if he wanted to?

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  1. globe_trotter

    globe_trotter Member Full Member

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    I asked this in general forum but got mixed responses, hopefully more knowledgeable posters here could answer.

    Suppouse a man weighing 180-190lbs wants to compete in the heavyweight division, would he be allowed to or is there a minimum weight requirement that you have to meet, like be above cruiser limit?

    can someone shed some light?

    fighters in the old days used to do this, but since nowadays there's more empathis on safety than before i dont know if it's still allowed.
     
  2. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always wonder about this? - How strictly the weight thing would be adhered to if an agreement was made between camps etc? - Roy Jones weighed 193 for Ruiz but can't remember whether the heavyweight minimum at the time was officially 200lbs or not?
     
  3. globe_trotter

    globe_trotter Member Full Member

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    im glad that there are more people interested in this topic.

    and roy did come in at 193, but the cruiser limit back then was 190lbs so anything above that was heavyweight territory, i think today if you want to fight as a heavy you have to tip the scales at 205 or above. 205 is today's cruiser limit.

    im not sure though, that's why i need more feedback on this.
     
  4. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Roy Jones weighed 193, he made a big deal of saying he would weigh what he weighed and he wouldnt deliberately put weight on, just for the sake of it. If he came in under the limit, then so be it.

    I am not sure how much of this was just media hype or whether or not he would be allowed to fight at the lighter weight, but i assume, with boxing being boxing, inter weight fights would no longer be sanctioned, but for certain fighters, or mega fights they would find a way around this if both parties agreed.
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I made a thread not too long ago about how old heavyweight champions would fight for the belt, even if they weighed 190. And many times it was their weight in which their victories were in part attributed to.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Convention holds that there is a 7lb alowance for a fighter coming in under the weight limit.

    So a cruiserweight must be no more than 200lbs but a heavyweight can be as little as 197lbs.

    In practice though, if a fighter has an optimum weight of 190lbs then making 193 for a weigh in is going to be easier than a good sh1t after a hot curry.
     
  7. globe_trotter

    globe_trotter Member Full Member

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    yeah, and those were the good old days. With roy out of the picture, when else have you seen a fighter weighing slightly above 190lbs fighting as a heavyweight.

    I want to know if it's because those guys are just afraid to step up, or it's simply not allowed


    more opinions needed
     
  8. globe_trotter

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    never knew this, interesting fact, thanks for pointing out. so being that todays cruiser limit is 205lbs, the minimum lightest that you have to be to compete as a heavyweight is 198lbs, no less than that?
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Back in the 1920s, the light heavyweight title was a chump change belt.

    Today you can make a tidy living off it in its own right!
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    As I understand things the cruiser limit is still 200lbs so anybody over 193 could compete.

    Roy Jones made 193 one way or another, because that was the weight he needed to make.
     
  11. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The cruiserweight limit was 190lbs in 2003 (it got changed to 200lbs later that year). Jones was above the cruiserweight limit as it stood at the time when he fought Ruiz.


    You'll also see fighters fighting for heavyweight titles at 180lbs before cruiserweight was established because it was above the lhw limit.

    I've never heard of this 7lb allowance. At lower weights it would mean that fighters could come in 2 weight divisions below the one they're fighting at. I'm not saying it's bull**** just because I've never heard of it but do you have any examples of where it's actually happened.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones fighting Ruiz is a textbook example.
     
  13. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What part of "the cruiserweight limit was 190lbs at the time" do you not understand ?

    Or do you think that 190 - 7 = 193?
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I understand that it varied between sanctioning bodies back then.
     
  15. globe_trotter

    globe_trotter Member Full Member

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    i got another question

    what if you show up at the weigh in dressed and carry an extra 20lb vest on you like Arreola did against Vitali, would you bypass the rules then?