Could a peak Aaron Pryor have done better v Spence than Garcia did?

Time to just put you on ignore
Your harmless and a nice guy but your threads clog up what is a great forum

 

Garcia was terrible and didn't belong in there. Spence is a good fighter but nothing i would rave about to be honest. Pryor would give him a real hard time and that's from someone that thinks Pryor is overrated.

 

Spence not getting enough credit here and that's not really the fight I saw .. He did circle out several times also. He fought the perfect fight for what was in front of him .. He was very economical and started landing very accurately .. Controlled the distance perfectly and landed A LOT of lefts to the body of Garcia and scoring points .. It was a boxing lesson.. Although Garcia out advantaged in every way ..

 

Duran could never match Ray's handspeed. He was in range of Leonard which is why he hit him, but he never could match Ray in hand or foot speed which is why he would never beat Ray again. in my opinion.

 

Spence hasn't done much yet, so it's probably prudent to reserve judgement, but right now he looks the real deal to me. If he proves himself to be just as good as I think he is, he beats all of the above on his best day except Floyd probably. And he seems to be a very consistent performer. But we'll see. Maybe Crawford or even Porter beats him well, and the above seems like a distant fantasy in hindsight. A lot can still happen.

 

Pryor,pac, Duran all take overated Spence

 

I'll just go ahead and say it - Leonard looked very poor in Montreal. His terrific hand speed was there as always and his bravery, stamina and resilience were A+, but in terms of tactics, poise and technique he didn't look anything near elite. In those aspects Spence looked levels above that Leonard yesterday. Yes, Duran fought a fantastic fight and that had much to do with it, but Leonard just wasn't at the races that night. Pure and simple. He looked further from his best than Duran did in the rematch, without a single doubt in my mind.

I don't usually formulate it this strongly because it kicks up such a **** storm, but at some point someone has to come out and say that the emperor has no clothes. Super gritty performance by Leonard, but he just looked out of sorts that night. More so than can only be explained by Duran's performance imo.

 

He'd have his work cut out to manage to do worse.

 

That is all he had to do, though. He could reach Garcia when Garcia couldn't reach him. So when Garcia steps forward, Spence steps back and the distance is maintained.

 

Ok. You and I watched two completely different fights, then. I think this is absolutely completely off the mark.

Spence fought the perfect fight. I haven't seen anyone do everything so perfect in a fight in a long time. His physical advantages was a great help in that, of course, but I can't invent flaws that weren't there just because Garcia is smaller. Spence did exactly what he had to do.

I think Garcia did very well as well, considering what he was up against. He blocked a lot, rode punches and all in all did a very good job in not shipping too many clean punches.

 

I think you're selling Spence short. Garcia got through a few times, but very little, especially with Spence actually being pretty aggressive, and going forward fairly often.

He moved in angles as much as he needed to, he wasn't getting trapped, and for the most part had good upper body movement.

 

Yeah, not fighting like Lomachenko is not necessarly the same as being static and moving in straight lines. Spence was very smart and economical with what he did. When Mikey was getting close he'd do just what he needed to create space with a slip, a step back or a step to the side and then usually come back with something. He was relaxed and in control the whole time, just doing what needed to be done, not an inch more. Quality and flash doesn't have to be the same thing. In fact, in most case they aren't.

 

Duran knocks Spence OUT.

 

Pryor would give Spence a fit, I wouldn't bet against the hawk, not after that performance by Spence

 

I'm not even sure we've ever disagreed but we do here. Leonard took on Duran where Duran was at his frightening best and came out quite well really.

Any amount of guys would have whupped the Garcia we saw and i'm not talking Leonard/Duran level. He was terrible and it's not just down to how good Spence was. It was a big step too far.

If that was the Duran thaty Leonard fought in there Spence would have been hammered imo and hammered handily. It's often about who is in there with you.