Could Ali Punch With Power?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by bigjake, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    1,385
    Likes Received:
    9
    didn't jimmy ellis stop bonavena?
     
  2. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    6,972
    Likes Received:
    45
    The one thing that always comes to mind, is that there were quite a few
    fighters that fought Ali, that were knocked out by other fighters alot quicker.

    Or knocked down earlier.
    For a 'big man' 6' 3" 220 lbs. you would have to think average power in the
    'force-energy' department.
     
  3. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    5,695
    Likes Received:
    12
    generally he didnt have killer one punch power..he usually had to break you down some....but id say when he decided to sit down on his punches...which was usually later in the fight...the punches had a good bit more on them then say..at the begining of his fights..when he just trying to flash them out....
     
  4. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    6,972
    Likes Received:
    45
    I would think, simply one of the smartest fighters ever.
    He liked to take you into 'deep deep waters', then pounce.

    Antonio Cervantes patterned his style after Ali, go after them very late!
     
  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    115
    Ali had decent power from 1960 to 1975....... By '76, Ali's power was heading south..... By 1978, it was gone....... Peace.....

    MR.BILL:deal:bbb
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,455
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    I agree with this assessment. Before 1976,the lower level fighters like Jurgen Blin,Rudi Lubbers etc lasted the course because Ali let them,basically. Later on he simply COULD N'T knock out people such as Leon Spinks and Alfredo Evangelista. Three or four years earlier,Spinks and Evangelista would have lasted as long as Muhammad's mood would have desired them to.
     
  7. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    6,972
    Likes Received:
    45
    Tunney Hunsaker;

    Cassius Clays first opponent.
    Asked about Clays power after his 6-round fight.

    'Clay's punches couldn't break a sweat'

    'I've been hit harder by a horse-fly'

    'Let me tell you, he hit hard for a middleweight, maybe he should drop down 25 lbs.

    'Floyd Patterson and Ingemar Johannson have nothing to worry about'
     
  8. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2005
    Messages:
    5,261
    Likes Received:
    2,477
    No....lots of his were TKO's......cuts.....the other fighter ran out of gas...etc
     
  9. swede_dreams

    swede_dreams Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2010
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    1
    Not much of a powerpuncher and his overall punching technique was terrible.
    The so called flurries looked liked something from a kindergarten fight...
     
  10. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Messages:
    20,862
    Likes Received:
    139
    Ali's speed and accuracy allowed him to punch pretty good. He wasnt a powerhouse though.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    19,404
    Likes Received:
    279
    Not sure exactly when that happened, but if they sparred/fought anywhere near Ali's prime, Ali would've blasted him.