Could Ali rope a dope Tyson.

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When the topic of Ali vs. Tyson comes up we usuayt argue about the pre exile Ali vs Tyson before he and Kiven Roony parted ways. It ks my opinion that Tyson would win this match up mostly due to the way Ali fights. All of his movement will get him knocked out against Tyson. The way to beat Tyson is to stay infront of him and basicly hit and hold and hopem to ware him down for a late round stopage. This to me sounds a lot more like hoow the post exile Ali fought. Could the rope a dope strtgy that Ali used to beat Foreman with or would he be best advised to use a diffrent stratagy facing Tyson?
    I am inclined to think that rope a dope might not be as effective on Tyson as it was on Foreman. While Foreman may have hit harder than Tyson. I beleve that Tyson was a much smater boxer and would not have wasted punches like Foreman did. I think that "old" Ali stands a etter chance of beating a prime Tyson, but I don't think rope a dope would be the best way for him to do so.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not a cat in hells chance.
     
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  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It might work, it was not just lieing on the ropes and take and beating and come back. It was countering, finding openings, holding(Yes Ali held Foreman). I think it could work on Tyson, but Ali would have to pay a price for it.
     
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  4. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime vs prime, I think Ali could beat Tyson...but the rope-a-dope would not be the best way to do it...in my opinion.
     
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  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    At first i thought, 'maybe, but it would be harder than doing it to Foreman', then i thought it was difficult to do so to Foreman and took a lot of patience, so maybe it wouldn't materialise against Tyson.

    I would pick li over him in a h2h ultimately though
     
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  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Ali was a bad match up for Tyson ... he would have gotten so into his head it would have been sad ...
     
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  7. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course! Bruno,Greene & Smith had no problem with smothering Tyson & lasting the distance. & Tyson did little to counter this tactic.
     
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  8. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    well it didnt work against frazier in their first fight. ali would have to do a combination of moving and holding to avoid tyson's power
     
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  9. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime vs prime he wouldnt need to he would thrash Tyson
     
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  10. MrMagic

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    Bruno?
    He didnt last the distance with Tyson?!
     
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  11. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    you shouldnt dismiss a prime tyson. a prime ali made qute a bunch of mistakes in the ring that tyson could have taken advatage of like pulling his head staright back to avoide punches, look at the cooper fight
     
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  12. leverage

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    Not for long stretches, perhaps maybe in spurts. It would be dangerous for him to try to fight tyson the same way that he did foreman. Tysons punches were much faster and he threw them in combinations which would give him a better chance of catching ali. Foreman, while powerful and hard hitting, was slow and often telegraphed his punches and it worked to ali's advantage.

    The best and smartest way for ali to fight tyson would be in the center of the ring where he could best utilize his physical advantages.
     
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  13. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    thats why it didnt work with frazier because frazier had better punching technique as well.
     
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  14. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he tried he would get his face and body smashed.
     
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  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I don't think it would be a good plan.
     
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