Could an Iron Mike-like HW excel in todays era of giants?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about?

    Larry was still a top 10 HW in the early 90’s, where he beat a very good fighter in Ray Mercer.

    Spinks proved in his fights with Holmes that he was a credible HW.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ray Mercer is a meaningful win my guy you saying it isn't doesn't make it correct which it isn't. Beating an undefeated ranked number 5 Heavyweight is a meaningful win how is it not ? you're making no sense.

    And having a competitive fight vs a prime Holyfield shows Holmes was competing at world level, which also proves your other statement factually incorrect.

    Again was Holmes ever stopped again after being KO'ed by Tyson yes or no ?
     
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  3. Loudon

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    Stop being ignorant.

    If you’re not going to value these wins, then hardly anything will impress you.

    Mercer and Morrisson would both be top 10 guys today.

    Holmes was not done at world level.

    Mercer was a very good fighter. Did you not see the Lewis fight?
     
  4. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Iron Mike would wreck havoc on today's heavyweights.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It appears as though he’s having a debate based on Boxrec.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    WTF is this?

    Ha!

    Come on man.

    You’re now trolling.

    Pulev and Wallin would have done better than Witherspoon?

    You don’t believe that.
     
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  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lots of "no" but Iron Mike would dominate today's HWs. The size is fine and all but pre-prison Tyson who was with D'Amato was fast as MW w HW power.

    That Tyson wipes every HW today.
     
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  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is absolutely incorrect. Fury has success tying people up because they're as big as him. If Fury tried that on Iron Mike Fury gets SLEPT. Mike had much shorter arms and would generate power inside the clinch...unlike all of the so-called greats of today that can only fight mid-range.
     
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  9. Loudon

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  11. Hotep Kemba

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    He was on short notice too! Barely had 4 weeks of training camp.
     
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  12. Hotep Kemba

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    What the hell is this :roflmao:

    You just throw it out there like every poster has catchy graph haha. I must see more.
     
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  13. Hotep Kemba

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    Jared Anderson is the only person under 30 on this list. He is also the person who most definitely shouldn't be on this list.
     
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  14. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey man, that graph took a lot of research to make.:picknose:

    But, hey, it's just a graphical representation of reality. But, sure, I can explain a little more. First let me preface this by saying Mike was an ATG for his era, that should always be acknowledged. But let's be honest, Mike was 5'10" and there will be a limit to what he would likely achieve against an era of super heavies (even if they are aging). Most of the time we can say size isn't just height, and there was a reason Mike would often either try to match the weight of his larger opponents or surpass them. And Mike had varied degrees of success doing this. But he just isn't beating Fury. The difference in height and reach would be comparable to Chagaev v Valuev. The trouble is Fury is an actual elite level fighter who is also a massive unit. So, Mike beating Fury = No chance. Zero. Pure fantasy. But it's fun to joke and argue about it.

    As for seeing more, well size will always be a factor in combat sports:
    The changing landscape: Top 10 Heavyweights by Decade | Boxing News 24 Forum (boxingforum24.com)
     
  15. AdamT

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    Favour mike over all of them
     
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