Could Anderson Silva have accomplished more had he never joined the UFC?

That's true, and it is generally acknowledged that MW is the UFC's weakest division. But it's not what you do it's the way that you do it I guess, refering to the Forest & Hendo wins. And isnt is generally accepted that Chael and Hendo are pretty high quality in terms of wrestling in the Octagon. And We'll see how he does against Vitor, definately the best striker he'll have faced in the UFC
It's an excellent thread to ponder by Yaca, shame Morono just copied and pasted his same old **** arguments from countless different threads with out actually stating how he'd fare against the guys in question.
I guess we wont find out how good Anderson is until he destroys an Estonian in the Octagon

 

Ohhh and I guess Maia qualifies as a high level BBJ artist and he's braz\ilian

 

No he really hasnt faced a fighter with K-1 level standup, simply put America doesnt have that many and kickboxing isnt really that popular in America.

AS also always enjoys the height and reach advantage, I think that this should be taken into account with regards to P4P. He can physically bully smaller guys, people like Fedor who is a true P4P number 1 is nearly always outweighed, out heights and out reached by his much bigger opponents, even so he still wins because of his better skills and all round ability.

 

Shame the same idiotic arguments always come up for the inclusion of AS, shame that wins in the UFC counts so much while more worthy fights outside doesnt, shame that people gloss over AS's full record and only concentrate on his UFC achievements where is ONLY fights UFC fighters and especially fighters from the Americas only.

Imagine the Japanese soccer team who only play against other Asian soccer teams calling themselves the best in the world.............its laughable, they cant be the best unless the BEAT the beast from around the world.

 

The **** content of your posts never ceases to amaze me.

The difference in height between Silva and his recent opponents is one or two inches at the most. Silva is 6'2, but Sonnen is 6'1, Maia is 6'0, Griffin is 6'3, Leites is 6'1, Henderson is 6'1, Franklin is 6'1, Marquardt is 6'0. A lot of these guys cut from a higher weight to make 185 than Silva as well. Plus have a tall lanky frame is not the most conducive for wrestling either.

Now I don't believe in P4P lists but has it ever occurred to you that maybe Fedor's size and frame might be an advantage at heavyweight? Maybe being a Fedor-like 235 pound compact, mobile heavyweight is better than being a slow lumbering Brock Lesnar type that cuts to make 265?

 

Excellent post :good Ive actually brought up the Fedor point before to Morono, all I got in a reply is Im Zuffa Zombie. Really hurt my feelings lol probs why I troll his posts so much.It's not like he's the only one who's beat bigger foes using speed or mobility, see Edgar v Penn, Pac v Margarito or even Gordeau v Tuli. Dont expect a sensible reply

 

Shame that your insults and Fedor man love have back you into a corner so much that you have to bring up the AS has lost to a few Asian fighters to justify your intellectual superiority to the rest of us Yes we get the point you are trying to make, you've mentioned it over and over and over again. But when people come up with credible arguments to the contry you fall silent.
Man up and answer son!

 

Fedor really isn't a good comparison - his legacy is primarily based on what he did in Pride. He was already (and rightly) acclaimed as the best fighter in his division when Pride imploded in 2007.

Silva outside of the UFC would be more like Jake Shields - as he put together a run he'd gain more and more creditibility but it'd be a slow process and his lack of success in the big leagues would be held against him. Personally I think he made the right choice in signing with the UFC.

In any case Silva isn't the best in the world...GSP is.

 

GSP hasn't lost a round in three years, has beaten men both bigger and faster than him, has coped with strikers, grapplers and wrestlers, and seems to have no suspectability to any particular style. To me that makes him number one ahead of Anderson Silva, who clearly struggles against wrestlers.

 

Maybe he should seek other challenges and fight international fighters.