Could Andre Ward sell out an 80,000 seater stadium like George Groves did?

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  1. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no no no calslappy is officially retired ward had issues with his promoter which have now been resolved don't act like you don't know the difference between the two.being out of the ring 1 year isn't forever most fighters only fight twice a year.
     
  2. Super Hans

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    It doesn't matter how good Groves is. We are talking about who's the draw here. Look at Chavez Jr, is he really that good? No but he's a PPV attraction.

    But I will give Groves this:

    1. he's never failed a PED test (like Roy Jones and James Toney)

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    2. he's never refused one (like Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins)

    :hi::hi:
     
  3. Super Hans

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    So how long should we keep him in the ratings?

    Should Vitali have still be the man at Heavyweight when he came back after 5 years? :think
     
  4. Super Hans

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    :good Calzaghe never lost his Super Middleweight and Light Heavyweight titles in the Ring, thus if you want to rate Ward, you must rate 'Zaggers above him.
     
  5. drenlou

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    Gennady Golovin, sergey Kovalev.Julio Cesar Chavez Jr?
     
  6. Super Hans

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    They wouldn't bring 80,000 fans. Bare in mind both Froch and Groves had followings. Chavez has a following put not enough to fill an arena on his own. GGG and Kovalev have growing reputations but still wouldn't fill a stadium that size- they aren't even consider PPV attractions yet.
     
  7. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While watching the Super six I thought Ward was going to go on to beat Bute then move up to make noise at LHW and have a HOF career to say I am disappointed is an understatement.....
     
  8. Super Hans

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    :yep Think is, if Ward pulled his head from his butt he'd be so easy to promote. Eddie Hearn was talking about it saying there is so much that could be done for Ward's profile
     
  9. Imperial1

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    Well I'm glad Groves could draw any fighter that makes money im happy for since they risks their lives in the ring ,but with that said re**** boxing is about who you fight and who you beat no one ranks fighters by the number of people they draw !

    And here is a news flash for you Groves will never be as great as

    Jones Toney or Ward ,ever no one will remeber him in 5 yrs time yet people,will still be talking about these great fighters in yrs to come no matter how many gay ass threads you put up ,no matter how many comments you make you will never ever ever take away from their accomplishments and their individual greatness !So keep reaching keep trying you still come up short like your hero's legacy !

    :hi:
     
  10. Super Hans

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    Here a fact, Groves will still be living rich in 5 years living comfortably, not living with the pain of being a PED cheat, still with all his faculties in tact.

    Jones and Toney will still be boxing and getting beat by unknown Eastern Europeans without a pot to **** in with slurred speech and erection trouble.


    I know who I'd rather be, and I bet Jones and Toney wish they had that too. :hi:
     
  11. Imperial1

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    Really you know for certain what these guys finances are :lol:

    I know If I was a boxer I wouldn't want to be Groves ...I would have bigger dreams than being Carl Froch's whooping boy that's for certain!


    But your dismissing two ATG great fighters for a journeymen I see your standards aren't' yo high when it comes to fighters no wonder you like Joe so much he is as pedestrian as they comes :lol:
     
  12. Super Hans

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    Suppose being competitive in two fights with a man in many pound for pound lists in Froch is better than a PED cheat who gets knocked out by journeymen Danny Green and Glen Johnson.

    If you are a PED cheat you should be exempt from the Hall of Fame for a start because your career has a huge asterix next to it, and only people who condone drug testing and think beating up cab drivers and postmen will juicing recognise Jones as an ATG :hi:
     
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  14. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward could not do it with out a big fight. But would beat anybody put in front of him knock him if you like but no one can touch him .Pure class.
     
  15. Loudon

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    It was Howard Foster who sold out the stadium.