Could any of these fighters beaten the '87 version of Hagler

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  1. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Trinidad,Williams,Pavlik,Oscar,Wright
    Assuming they moved up in weight Mosley,Mayweather,Cotto
     
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  2. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:lol::rofl


    No.
     
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  3. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No
     
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  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no chance
     
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  5. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Nope
     
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  6. Thread Stealer

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    I'm awaiting rooster's entrance in this thread.
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    No.
     
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  8. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope.
     
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  9. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I am not so quick to dismiss Williams. It is not exactly fair to say he beats the Hagler of '87. That is not my argument. I think it is premature to rule Williams out until he makes an account of himself at 160, that's all.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You know, I was tempted to say something along similar lines, but after giving it thought, I'm still not that sold on Williams as a middleweight. Perhaps I'm unforgiving and have a bit of an anti-Williams bias, but I can't get that first Quintana fight out of my head.

    I recognize that Paul has improved since then, but has he improves so much that we're really giving him a chance against an 87 version of the Marvelous One?

    I can't see it, so I refrained from posting it, even though the thought did cross my mind on him.

    It's fair to say he could be a potential wild card in the equation, but I'm betting against his future success in the division.
     
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  11. Xplosive

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    h e l l

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  12. Xplosive

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    Hagler would wipe his ass with Paul.
     
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  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Based upon what I saw in one of his last ever sparring sessions, if they could retain their speed at the lower weights, someone like Wright I'd say yes. Wright is a good mover and about all Hagler had at this point was a decent right jab.

    What could hagler really do at this stage in his career? Even if he caught up to one of them, he was too slow to get off and couldnt punch. He was too slow to catch his prey anywhere so where's the danger?
     
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  14. teeto

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    Nar, Oscar would be physically brutalised. Trinidad is a fine fighter, but Hagler's chin would stand up and he'd likely stop his man. Winky, nar, if he would be having trouble, Hagler would change his game and he'd end up winning. Williams, well like rekcutnevets said, we're not too sure of his standing at 160 yet, but the thread does say 'if they moved up', so no, Hagler could roll with shots and make you pay with hard and heavy hooks, Williams is not the sharpest of hitters. Hagler clearly beats all of them.

    The Trinidad one would be a hell of a bout while it lasts.
     
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  15. Flea Man

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    I say all of them stop him before the third round. Easily, Hagler isn't fit to lace Pavlik's boots :good
     
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