Could any other boxer in history be 50-0 if they fought the same opponents as Floyd?

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  1. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they don't measure up to the guys i listed.
     
  2. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    K...like how so? Are they first ballot HOF/ATG fighters or nah?
     
  3. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think most Mexicans had some quite dodgy fights early in there Careers Chavez no exception....does not take from there Greatness....From of my all time Favorite Fighters are Mexican I have more time form Chavez than Floyd Junior but that's just Me plenty will disagree and plenty will be with me Good Poll who was the Greater Fighter Floyd Junior Or Julio Ceaser Chavez....could someone put this Poll up.!!!
     
  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are these 50 pro fights occurring over a similar twenty one year duration?

    If so, then I would suspect that a lot of fighters that you'd think would be capable turning the trick might fall the wayside as the years progressed. Seventeen years into his career, for example, SRR dropped a decisions to Ralph Tiger Jones. 14 years into his career, Duran dropped a decision to Kirkland Laing. It didn't necessarily require an ATG caliber opponent to defeat those fighters in the advanced stages of their careers, so if you assume the same level of deterioration, losses to guys like Canelo aren't necessarily out of the question in that particular situation.
     
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  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You''re saying the Mayweather's wins over a green weight drained Canelo, an injured Pacquiao coming off getting KTFO by Marquez, and a Delahoya well on the way out are better opposition than Chavez' fights with a murderous puncher in Rosario, an undefeated and possibly the fastest handed fighter in history in Meldrick Taylor, and what could be the greatest defensive wizard of all-time in Pernell Whitaker???

    Rosario, Taylor and Whitaker were in their absolute prime, that's not the case for the opposition Mayweather faced in Canelo, Pacquiao, and Delahoya.

    LOL, you know absolutely zero about the sport if you think that.
     
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  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let’s face it, the difference between a win or lose can be so arbitrary it can simply come down to 1 man and a point difference.

    Floyd could have just as easily lost the Castillo, maidana, odlh fights on another scorecard. On a fair scorecard that leans the other way too.

    On a bias scorecard, let’s say he was fighting outside his hometown on the other guys backyard with their red and judges, he could have easily lost quite a few more.

    Except for the maidana fight which was close to a draw, I thought floyd won all those fights clear enough but floyd has never been on the wrong side of the decision.

    Prior to Mosley 2, Oscar could have just as eaisly been “undefeated” giving him wins over he likes of Whitaker, Mosley, Vargas, Tito to name a few.
     
  7. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This was absolute Truth.....Rosario, Taylor and Whitaker were in their absolute prime, that's not the case for the opposition Mayweather faced in Canelo, Pacquiao, and Delahoya.
     
  8. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Rosario was washed up when he met chavez!
     
  9. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah and neither was Mayweather...
     
  10. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was 24 years old and 31 and 2 and Won the World Title the previous Fight....and you say he was washed up.....you must be kidding.!!!
     
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  11. lencoreastside

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    Well he was awful in the fight...
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jesus Christ......Rosario right prior to meeting Chavez had lost a split decision the year previous to a prime Hector Camacho in a fight many thought Rosario won, and in his next fight after Camacho Rosario demolished Livingstone Bramble who was an excellent fighter in the style mode of Winky Wright, a high guard defense with a heavy jab. Rosario punching power just tore right through Bramble's high guard defense and knocked him straight out.
    Rosario was the type of fighter that did well vs defensive fighters like Camacho and Bramble and imo strikes me as a fighter that may have broken through Mayweather's defense.
    Washed up? No, Rosario was at his prime. You need to see Chavez vs Rosario, Chavez was just that good!
     
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  13. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Good post maybe you’re right..
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Chavez lost to Whitaker.

    Yes. Mayweather would beat Rosario and Meldrick without issue, Chavez would lose to Canelo and Oscar at 154, and Pac at 147.
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets see, can any fighter in history fight 50 times professionally, and within that 50 only face a handful of legit threats (elite fighters in their prime), a couple washed up greats, a plethora of tomato cans, and remain undefeated? Of course. If they were a generational fighter, Oscar, Mosley, Whitaker, Sugar Ray etc and main concern was keeping their 0 and making sure to avoid the toughest fights (or taking them at opportunistic times) and take the easier path nearly everytime, sure they could have kept undefeated, add along with that they would need a couple razor close decisions to luckily swing their way also.
     
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