Could anybody in history outbrawl these fighters?

Jake was that strong. I mean that strong....some people believe no 160lber ever can match tigers' strength. There is one........Jake Lamotta. Lamotta also had the durability endless stamina and windmill punching abilities to outbrawl tiger.

 

I think Qawi has a half-decent chance of outbrawling Foster actually. Hi style and chin would hold up. Hagler has little chance of going toe-to-toe with Tiger- and winning, although he'd box from mid-range and secure a decision. Greb is most likely at 160 vs Tiger. Maybe Fullmer?Foreman would mash Tyson, of course. Foreman actually looks like he's letting Lyle hit him clean in that fight, just to prove a point.

 

I think you are not only underating lamottas strength but his durability as well. No one ever came close to stopping a prime in shape jake lamotta. What makes you think tiger was stronger?

Dempsey has no shot to outbrawl foreman..see firpo fight. Too aggresive, if you are too agressive brawling vs foreman you will get knocked out. to outbrawl foreman, you have to have an brawler with inhumane strength and durability BUT thats less agressive and more mechanical and tactical.....like marciano who foreman will find ackward hitting. Marciano unlike dempsey doesnt rush right in, he mechanically moves slowly shuffling under his high gaurd and low crouch....like I said I pick foreman to stop marciano but out of all the swarmers marciano has the best style to beat a slugger like foreman.

 

To outbrawl foreman you have to be mechanical and calculated when you come in.......which was marciano. Dempsey had wonderful head movement but when he faced big sluggers he loved to charge right in like a tiger only the big elephant george foreman would crush the tiger. I just think marciano matches up better vs foreman than dempsey does. Its styles.

 

Marshall did not outmuscle him, he outfought and outboxed lamotta. Marshall would beat tiger and griffith too. Jake outmuscled Marcel Cerdan very badly, it was jakes strength that caused cerdan to get hurt in the first place.

 

Toney could probably out brawl a good amount of people.. I mean, he could be in a exchange and come out without getting hit... Was good at using his forearms to push peoples around too.

 

Ones mentioned in this thread that I disagree with.

Pacquiao(excellent when coming forward, but when backed up, especially by a guy who would nullify Pac's speed with his strength and power, he would get outdone)

Foster- Fantastic puncher, but it was in close quarters that he was unable to let off his punches due to space(though his left hook was actually still quite efficient in close) and could get manhandled.

LaMotta- No way he outbrawls Tiger, and I could see a few others hanging with him.

Rafa Marquez- I think he's proven himself to be a good brawler, but he clearly holds the boxing edge.

Chavez- Only because Duran was there

Hagler- Because it is quite obvious that he would've resorted to other tactics against many MW's, and for good reason

 

You know about as much about boxing as you do about everything else.

A prime Foreman would have KILLED a prime Tyson.

A prime Louis may have beaten a prime Foreman though.

 

why not? Equal Strength, except lamotta had better stamina and durability and higher punchrate.

 

It's as McGrain said, I simply don't agree that he had equal strength, I don't think Jake would hurt him, and I'd love to see how Jake responded to Tiger's relentlessness when it came down to trading shots. Tiger just seemed to be the stop sign, he was the guy you couldn't back up or stay in there with. For Christ's sake he made Gene Fullmer resort to boxing and moving and beat Hurricane Carter around the ring.

 

Why Marciano? Sure, he was a great brawler himself but I don't think he would stand a chance fight against a guy who was equally at home in that type of fight, but is so much bigger. Marciano would lose just like Frazier would, in my opinon.

I fancy two guys to put up a great fight against Foreman. One being Viatli Klitschko and the other Riddick Bowe. Whether they would win, I don't know, but they stand a much better chance.

I'm only thinking of guys who would try and fight him like this, by the way. Louis wouldn't because he'd get the **** smacked out of him. I doubt Tyson would choose this fight, too. Liston wouldn't either.

 

Lamotta has a good shot in beating Tiger imo.
Iron Chin, great strength, see the Cerdan fight, He also out work the great Ray Robinson, who was STRONG.
No one hardly brings up Lamotta's strenght, a shame most of the film we have of Lamotta is past his best, but we are talking PRIME version. I sure people could see Tyson getting out work pretty easy if all we had was footage of the Lewis fight.

 

Strength: Foreman
Heart: Foreman
Ability to rise from canvas and win: Foreman.
Ability to shake off being headbutted without whining to ref: Foreman
Least amount of cocks' smoked: Foreman


Foreman KO Tyson. Cus knows best.

 

:rofl

But honestly, how the hell do people give Louis a chance at beating Foreman but not Tyson?