Could Cotto have done anything different?

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  1. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    After watching the fight it appeared to me that Cotto after the 5th round was more interested in surviving than winning. Power punch after power punch seemed to bounce of Margarito's head with little or no visible effect. Whilst Cotto displayed some nice combinations, good footwork I was left a little disappointed by his choice of tactics. This is a guy who has always been recognized for being a great body puncher and with Margarito's body exposed for large chunks of the fight, why was the invitation not taken? Cotto was never going to knock his opponent out but consistent and sustained body punching from the opening bell would certainly have slowed Margarito down, especially with left hooks to the body. Cotto should have tied-up his opponent a lot more when they were on the ropes, he would have conserved energy that he was so obviously lacking in the later rounds. Congratulations to Margarito but I cannot help but feel that Cotto's tactics played right into his hands. If the right gameplan had been executed the outcome of the fight could have been so different.
     
  2. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taken a gun into the ring ?

    I picked Cotto and he was boxing brilliantly but no matter what he did , how hard he hit Margo or how bad he made him look early on there was no stopping him. On that night I think Margorito pretty much beats anyone put in front of him.

    Big respect to both men , what a battle !
     
  3. Dirty Bastard

    Dirty Bastard Dirty As Hell Full Member

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    Cotto did well when he stuck and moved. When he got into exchanged after the 5th when his stamina went he just took big shots!!

    Either way...he went out like a warrior!

    But that night he could have hit Margo with a hammer but he wasn't going anywhere!
     
  4. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree with the body punching sentiments, because I think that planting his feet and aiming downstairs would've just opened him up to more early punishment. He had to keep fleet of foot and keep his gloves up rather than swing at the body a lot.

    I do agree though that he should've saved some energy in the early rounds by tying Margarito up where possible. He didn't have to give it the full Ruiz grab-grapple-headlock method but it would've been a help for later on, given him more spring in his step and be able to avoid the shots as he did earlier on in the fight.

    I seriously don't think Cotto believed, as so many also believed, that Margarito could take quite that level of punishment...never mind going down, he wasn't even getting cut or swollen up. Cotto kept firing at the head waiting for that and it never happened. If a rematch was set, that would be something Cotto would bear in mind.
     
  5. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally I was watching the fight with a non boxing fan friend and he couldn't believe how unmarked Margo was , after five rounds of getting hit with every punch in the book he looked fresh as a daisy , incredible !
     
  6. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely, it wasn't just standing up to that abuse, it was taking it with so little facial damage. He had some abrasions under the eyes and that was about it.

    It's always the nightmare for a power puncher, finding someone that not only takes your best shots but takes all of your best shots, and keeps on coming. It's difficult to keep your head and poise in a pressure situation like that.
     
  7. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tie margo up more
     
  8. Tencount85

    Tencount85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He could've employed a John Ruiz hit and hug strategy and probably have picked up the W, but then the fight woudln't of been as enjoyable.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Keep the fight in the middle of the ring and DON'T go to the ropes, at some points Cotto would go to the ropes and lean with his head down welcoming those uppercuts with full force till he got busted badly. He should've threw a couple then held and got out of the corner every time he was charged there by Margarito.

    Still Cotto tried to fight his way out of situations till he was broken down eventually as Margarito planned, he gave the fans what they wanted even when he knew it could cost him the fight.
     
  10. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Watching the fight though, I got the impression that Cotto was head-hunting all the time. Poor tactics, when has Margarito been knocked out in 40 odd-fights? At no stage did he test Margarito's body and he did plant his feet and engage when he had his back against the ropes. When Cotto countered, he should have countered to the body. If there is a re-match and Cotto tries the same tactics again the result will be exactly the same.
     
  11. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    at the end of the fight he seemed to be very puffy to me..
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should've attacked the body more and use the jab all night... but he let Margarito abuse him at the ropes. As long as his stamina was there, it wasn't a big problem, but when he started to fade, all the troubles came and he was still hanging on the ropes waiting for counter-punching opportunities.

    I don't know whether he can get into a better condition but I know body punches can slow anyone down, therefore Miguel should throw a LOT more there...

    So yes, he can do some things differently. Can he win? I think the main problem was his stamina, and can he have more? I don't know...
     
  13. gottagivafight

    gottagivafight When you least expect it, expect it!!! banned Full Member

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    I'm baffled as to how, Dude. As mentioned last night, I kinda promised to divulge somethin' I seen at the fight and wanted to wait in respect to all the PR'canz in here. But the fact is, Cotto sat on the ropes a few times throughout that fight. Not only myself, but most everyone around me that was pro Margo or anything close saw it. He cringed like I've never seen him do to try and weather the punches. In all objective honesty, I think he did all he could do. Sorry, Dude-but I think that's pretty accurate.
     
  14. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    I don't know, if Cotto had tried to keep the fight in the middle of the ring the fight would turned into a slugfest and ended a lot sooner unless as you say he fired off two or three shots to the body and held repeatedly.
     
  15. gottagivafight

    gottagivafight When you least expect it, expect it!!! banned Full Member

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    Yeah no ****. And I wanna add one more thing: This is a fight and those alike that keeps our sport alive, people. Had there been more fights like this in the past and more consistantly so, maybe the UFC wouldn't exist today? Any of yu ever think of that? I certainly have based on the fact I have friends that claim they've left/turned their backs on boxing due to the lack of excitement involved. I wish there to be more where Cotto/Margo came from. Who's ****in' with me?!