Could Cotto have done anything different?

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  1. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe if he went to the bidy more. i dunno
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Not at all, did you see what happened when they were in the middle of the ring?, Cotto was landing some good shots there with Margarito trying to charge him to the ropes which Cotto obliged only to counter till he realised he's actually taking more damage there with the uppercuts he was constantly open for. I'm not necessarily saying that if he did that he would've won but he might have had a better chance at winning, Margarito's pressure was still going to be there and his punches as well.
     
  3. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree completely with the exception of Cotto going into survival mode in the 5th round. I'd say more like the 8th or 9th. I'm going to rewatch the fight later so that may change. But along with your statement about Cotto clinching more I think Cotto should've been using the jab more and unloading more on Margo BEFORE he got to the ropes, which is where Margo had him perfectly measured every time, especially late in the fight, in that respect I think Cotto was being TOO cautious, ultimatly playing right into Margos style.

    Margo went out and did his thing and was victorious
    Cotto went out and tried to do something different instead of fighting his fight, it appeared as though his whole approach seemed very different, I'm just amazed that Cotto didnt adapt to Margos very basic style:-(

    and no **** where the **** were the body shots Cotto?
     
  4. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah by the end hiis eyes had puffed up a bit , but like i say after 5 rouds ( most of which I gave to Cotto ) of getting hit a lot he looked unmarked , untroubled and if anything getting stronger , ****in Tough Guy !!
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Of course, but that's Cotto. Nobody expected that he would decide to throw singles, move, and get out, or strategically clinch. There was nothing Cotto could have done to win this fight. It wasn't in his mold or character to do what would have been required. Cotto likes to plant his feet.... Cotto likes to load up... Cotto likes to throw 3's, 4's, and 5's...

    The people who picked Cotto to win this fight didn't understand Miguel Cotto, and they sure as **** didn't understand Antonio Margarito. Aside from Hopkins over Tarver this fight was the biggest no brainer 'upset' I can recall in years. You could literally draw up equations and forumulas for this one. It was all math and science. No sport, no game of chance.

    There wasn't even a proper argument that came from anyone picking Cotto. It was always this amazingly weak garble about how Cotto was the "better fighter." There was no content. A flight of fancy.
     
  6. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A really good welterweight got beaten by a bigger more natural welterweight.
    Thats what happened.
    Cotto would never beat Margo as he is too small to keep Margo off him.
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He could have boxed the whole time. Which is why I think A guy like Floyd vs Marg would be a completely different fight. I knew Cotto would have too much pride and decide to trade with Marg, When to BEAT Marg Cotto had to use his superior boxing skills. Cotto did that very well in the begining but Marg would cut down the ring and corner him for a few seconds and get in good work. That eventually hurt Cotto's chances.
     
  8. MexChamps

    MexChamps Active Member Full Member

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    As you seen vs Cintron when he tried to fight Margs in the middle of the ring he was open to alot more shots

    Cotto would have ended up on the ropes anyways
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Good post Scar. Tony was doubling up on those uppercuts, and brutalizing Cotto with them. Miguel should have worked harder at keeping the fight in the center of the ring. When he did get pushed back he should have clinched and forced a break.

    On the other hand Tony could have ended this fight 2 or 3 rounds sooner. He did not seem to be able to anticipate Cotto's moves. Cotto moved almost exclusively to his own left. I was literally screaming at Margo to step to his right. Watch what Pavlik does when he gets a guy on the ropes. He uses subtle footwork to keep the guy there. If Tony would have done that, he could have had a much shorter, and easier night.
     
  10. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably, but in order to win he had to box. Rounds 1 - 5 showed that Cotto has the ability to out box Marg......He just could sustain that kind of skill for 12 rounds. His pride made him Brawl with marg when that was not what was going to make him win.
     
  12. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prior to the fight I said that I thought it would be a mistake for Cotto to try to box Margarito. Margarito just keeps coming and if you box him only hitting him with 2 or 2 shots he is going to be too strong by the end of the fight. I think that the only hope that Cotto would hav ehad would be to go straight into toe to toe exchanges. he may have had a better chance of having Margarito in as bad shape as him at the end of the fight.

    After seeing Saturday's fight though, I thikn that Margarito is too strong for even that to have worked.