Could Dempsey Be Competitive with Modern Super Heavies?

This. Dempsey would unify the division and then most likely slowly self destruct outside of the ring.

 

This thread derailed into a shitstorm, smh. And yes, Dempsey, and any ATG heavyweight for that matter, would dominate the current division.

 

Welcome to the forum.

First off Dempsey was 6'1 and if he was around today he'd be at least 15 pounds heavier, still relatively light by todays standards admittedly. Second yeah the likes of Takam, Molina and Szpilka are heavier but they're also several levels below in skill and talent plus Dempsey hit harder than all of them.

 

how do you get more skilled with a much later start?

why are you trying toclaim that some races are more skilled boxers than others?

 

obv for your comparison, not for comparison between completely different proportions - are you deliberately being an idiot?

u just dismissed 2 top ten args and a hofer.

 

Lol ,u dismiss all u want pal ,but in another 100 year's I bet Dempsey s names still mentioned in boxing ,not quite sure Wilder or Joshua s will be mind .

 

How many modern skilled 6'0 180-190 pound cruiserweights have become champions in the last 50 years? But yeah Jack Dempsey could do it because of what? Because in your little head you wish it could be true? Get the he ll out of here. Dempsey couldn't even beat the 170 pound Tunney. Don't say well Dempsey was past his prime. He was 31 years old. He was still in his prime and he lost to a super middleweight/small light heavyweight in Tunney. But yeah he could be guys who were 6'3 to 6'7 and weigh between 220 and 270 who are actually skilled by modern standards.

Watch one of you clueless biased Dempsey fans type. But he beat Jess Willard and he was 230 pounds. Jess Willard was a bum. Even compared to unskilled fighters of that era. So were guys like Luis Firpo, and hell all of the fighters from that era. There were considered skilled for their time. Being skilled one era doesn't equate being skilled for the modern era. Even if Dempsey was ressurrected in the modern era. He would still be a 6'0 180 to 190 pound fighter. He still couldn't compete from just the size part alone.

 

the clue is that CW started 40 years ago, and thus they have become CW champions, genius.

r u gonna ask "how many middleweight champions became supermiddleweight champions fifty years ago?" next?

 

The answer to this question is "it depends".

It really depends on the style of the fighter and how good he is. I've no doubt Dempsey could do severe damage to any fighter with a porous defence, a weak chin or poor technique. On the other hand when you get SHW that box cautiously and use their size to dictate the fight, things might be a lot tougher for Dempsey. He's then got to take risks to open up the defence and that leaves him open to counters from a much bigger man.

I'd take him over Wilder, certainly.

I think AJ would be a much tougher assignment because he actually has a defence and a system.

 

Eras Farooq! Eras! Plus...you're including any "half way decent current heavy" destroying Dempsey?
Eras Farooq!
Put your 'big, bad, big boys' from the 90's and 21st century into a time machine and let them hit their prime in the 1920's...not...now.
Let's have Dempsey be born much later, say, 1975 and let him face your boys if they were prime in the 1920's; heck let's just have a 2000-ish prime Jack against your boys NOW!
No disrespect but I've gotten so sick of these...decades apart comparisons!
If either of the Klit boys, for example, had hit prime in the post-Czarist Russia time, fought a prime 2000 Dempsey, they would have had their arses handed to them!!
My $0.02

 

You type like you are on crack. I have no ideal what you are trying to explain but I will just ignore you.

 

2 observations Dempsey had 3 yrs off prior to fighting Tunney who was fast enough to thump Greb

Fury would be tough for anyone to fight with his size and movement

 

Farooq likes his men big

 

He'd have a puncher's chance, not boxers chance and would need to cash in on his puncher's chance end early.

The two best boxers Dempsey fought in Tunney and Sharkey were outboxing him, Tunney especially. What did he win 19 0f 20 rounds? Sharkey was pasting Dempsey ( had him hurt ) until the low blows ten quick hook when Sharkey complained to the ref. Sharkey wasn't a big puncher.

Heck Carpentier before he got hurt was landing on Dempsey. His defense on film is not that good. Firpo who had poor skills floored Dempsey, and a moderately skilled Brennan was ahead on Dempsey late in a title fight until Dempsey landed a bomb.

None of these guys are in Bowe's Lewis, Klitschko, Klitschko, or Joshua zip code as a boxer or puncher. Well Tunney was a a boxer, but he's 5 inches shorter with a lot less reach.

It would be best for Dempsey if he used the gloves he used for Willard ( those light gloves ) and fought dirty early. With modern gloves, I do not think JD would hit quite as hard.

I do think Dempsey could beat Wilder who's only moderately skilled.

 

A punchers chance, is not worth two buckets of warm spit, at the very highest level.

A boxers chance, now that is something to be reckoned with.

A finisher, has a chance against darn near anybody!