Could Fedor move to 205?

Beat who? Fedor @ 205? Are you high?:rasta

 

Who mate? Seriously WHO at 205 is going to beat Sylvia of Choi?

 

I'm sorry...in what bizarro world is Choi a serious fighter?

 

Answer the question. Name me one fighter at 205 that can beat Choi. Choi is over 7ft and 320lbs. He's sheer size alone makes him a serious striker in the K1. He has knee's that can literally crack a man's skull. O yea and the K1 disagrees with you.

 

I thought I made myself pretty clear.

There are 205 lb fighters who could (smaller in HMC's case) who could beat Sylvia and HMC.

 

Randy Couture and Minowa for a start.

Shogun and Lyoto would have their way with Sylvia at this point; I see no reason why Manhoef couldn't do to Choi what CroCop did.

 

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Brilliant video...speaks louder than any words could.

As for Sylvia, when Fedor fought him he was always badly on the skids, having lost to both Couture and Nogueria.

I think people are failing to understand just how long Fedor's career is. The game has evolved from when he started fighting in 2000 with bigger, faster heavyweights coming in. Lesnar, Carwin and even Velasquez are not like Sylvia or Sapp - they are huge heavyweights who combine size, speed and skill.

Smaller heavyweights like Fedor and Couture are throwbacks to a time when the heavyweight division was relatively weak and smaller fighters could dominate bigger but less talented opponents. If Fedor was ever to fight in the UFC against such 'superheavyweights' he'd quickly learn the lesson that Couture has about the need to step down in weight.

 

I totally agree with you on this one, there is alot of talent at 205, I think we can all agree on that.

But is there anybody that could take on Fedor at 205 ?...IMO I hardly doubt it

 

Well, you can have your opinion !

I'm kinda tired of those of earing : Fedor wouldn't have such a great career if he fought in the UFC right now.

What does the UFC HW division got right now ? Big wreslter gassed most of the time after the second or third round ?

Wrestling is so overated IMO, it's nice for the lay'n'pray and such a style really make boring fight. If poeple in U.S. could start juding like in Japan, the game would be totally different.

I know some of you guy's don't like Gerard, but IMO he won is fight against King Mo. That fight proved 3 thing, Gerard really as awful takedown defence, King Mo could just have sit on him and still won the fight, and the judges don't understand **** about who's active on the ground and who isn't !

You can say whatever you want, but Fedor would have destroyed the HW division either now, or 10 years ago, absolutly no difference !

 

As are you

I am amazed that you say Moussasi won that fight - being put on your back for almost the entire fight is hardly a match winning performance. Mo doesn't have the best top game but he was dominating Cage Control and I can't remember him being in too many dicey positions.

I disagree that wrestling always makes for a boring fight - seeing some guy be mauled on the ground can be just as exciting as a standup war. Sure there's lay and pray but that's like dismissing BJJ when grapplers stall or demoaning strikers as boring because some refuse to engage and instead dance around the cage. All styles can make good fights just as all styles can cause bad fights.

We have no way of knowing for cterian how Fedor would handle moving to the UFC, especially considering how the rules slightly favor wrestlers when compared to Japanese rules (being in a cage not a ring, allowing elbows on the ground and different judging criteria) but seeing how Rogers was able to control on the ground for parts of their fight I'm pretty confident that a Lesnar or Velasquez would defeat him. Its been almost four year since he's last fought a legit wrestler and that was a past his prime Coleman and knowing M-1 I don't think that's an accident.

 

It is worth noting that the rules of K1 work to the advantage of these huge fighters - because the smaller fighters are prohibited from taking them down. They literally have to stand there and let the bigger man knee them to death. If that success translated into MMA then guys like Choi and Schilt would be champions in several orgs across the globe.

 

If Fedor wanted to move to 205 he would of done it a long time ago

 

I didn't say King Mo was in any dicey position I said he didn't do **** instead of lay'n'pray. He took him down, tried to do some dmg(G'n'p), coudn't do it, and that was pretty much of the fight from the King Mo perspective. While at that time Moussassi just blocked most of the shot and kicked and punched is face into oblivion. I'm not the one usually pointing out physical dmg, but just look at the face of Mo and compare it to Moussassi, YES Mo "dominated" him on the ground, could take him down on demand, but that was ****in it.


I said wrestling is overated, not useless. best exemple King Mo Vs Moussassi ! Good wrestling, good takdown, but who ****in care ? Yes, gratz, you can hold and bring down an oponent to the ground, but you can't switch stance, can't get hold of a dominant position to finish the finish and on top of that, can't even sub ? explain to me how is that suppose to be useful ? Didn't said it always make boring fight either, I said lay'n'pray is boring !


Man, if you think Rogers dominated Fedor on the ground, like I said, you are entiltled to your opinion...but honestly ? I can't believe how many people think that being on is ****in back for 25 second and getting hit by what....4 or 5 punch not even clean being dominated on the ground in a 5 minute round. PLEASE Go check back the Fedor VS Rogers fight, Fedor is on is back for not even 25 second....ridiculous...but whatever !

 

he could make 205 easy, he has a good 30 pound of excess fat on him. but i dont think he ever would. would love to see it mind.