Could Floyd beat BJ Penn in an MMA fight?

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  1. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Penn can take enough Floyd shots to make it a certainty, IMO. It's as close to a sure thing as. You can get. I wouldn't take floyd at 100/1 odds.
     
  2. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you understand the fact that BJ penn doesn't even have to walk into punching distance to take Mayweather down?
    I'm being dismissive because I KNOW that a person who doesn't know how to stop a takedown won't stop it. You understand that Mayweather physically will not be able to punch hard enough to knock him out with 1, 2, 3 or even 4 punches while someone is trying to take him down. It's NOT going to happen.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5z1-X3l7j8[/ame]

    That is all that Penn needs to do. Low single leg, fight is over. 100/100 times Penn wins.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    We're in agreement. If Penn wants to take the fight to the ground, he will, and he'll win. If Penn keeps the fight standing as opposed to going for a takedown immediately, he can get hit, he can get knocked out.
     
  4. tri-pod

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    This thread is awful. Seriously who comes up with this ****?

    Floyd style isn't a knockout style, and BJ is a ****ing tough dude. PBF lands cleanly Penn shakes it off and gets the takedown. 10/10 times.

    Boxing match Floyd dances around BJ all day gets the decision victory. 10/10 times.

    If Floyd has a punchers chance then so does BJ right?


    This thread is fail.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Penn is tough getting hit against other Mixed Martial Artists who can barely throw a punch with proper technique and timing. Mayweather can throw with the type of speed, timing, and technique to knock any MMA fighter around his division out. "Different world", as Jens Pulver put it.
     
  6. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ray Mercer:D......I find it funny how MMA guys act like a boxer has zero chance in mma.....When ray mercer, a fat washed-up boxer, had some success....

    Take a look at Anderson Silva's boxing record on boxrec....
     
  7. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Jens specified "Different world" in a Boxing ring. NOT IN A CAGE.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Perhaps, but what I said is still valid I feel. Getting hit by GSP in the face with a punch is not the same as being hit with a punch by Floyd Mayweather.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Sylvia wasn't long ago the UFC HW champion of the world too. MMA fans will play it down, it's hardly surprising that they would, but Mercer vs Sylvia is exactly what I'm saying. All fights start standing up, Boxing and MMA, and that gives a professional boxer, the best boxer on the planet, a chance to land...and a chance to knockout his opponent.
     
  10. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are bigger strikes that happen in MMA.. You act like a lead right cross is the biggest strike in the world.

    I'll tell you this much. MMA has seen more powerful strikes, and just as well timed strikes than boxing ever has, or ever will. Simple reason, roundhouse kick to the head. I'll site Filipovic when he was at his best. Nobody in boxing ever threw a bunch anywhere near as powerful as his left leg to the jaw. Not even in the same building, and his timing was extremely good.. Tactically, as a southpaw he would drop fighters guards when they got a taste of his liver kick if they carried their guard high.. And when they did drop their guard, they went down..

    This happened when he was a pro kickboxer, and it happened in MMA as well..

    Now, Filipovic as a kickboxer was known for his power, one strike knockout ability.. Floyd, isn't known for that.. He is known to be elusive defensively, and a master at striking without being struck, both as a counter puncher, and as a guy who can pot shot you all night..

    Why would BJ Penn stand up with someone as good as Floyd Mayweather when he can simple shoot his legs and pound his face in?
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    ...Well observed beautiful, but apart from MMA being lackluster in general, I wasn't talking about kicks. Mayweather isn't looking to kick anyone.
     
  12. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Anderson Silva is mainly a Muay Thai fighter and has good Boxing for MMA. Not for pro Boxing. Ray Mercer came in and beat a fighter in Tim Sylvia that wasn't the best representative for MMA. Sylvia is as washed as Mercer. It just so happens, Mercer has better hands and it made all the difference.

    I can use the same point you just did in reverse when MMA fighters step into a Boxing ring and beat up on someone who isn't the best representative for Boxing.

    Example. Yves Edwards: At one time one of the best Lightweights in MMA.
    This is his Boxing match.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJngGIXyAU[/ame]

    Vitor Belfort: One of the best P4P fighters in MMA today.
    This is his Boxing match.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JisGpGEtiGY[/ame]


    What Ray Mercer did was the equivalent of the vids I posted. It doesn't really mean anything. Ray Mercer lost to Kimbo Slice, that doesn't really mean anything either. A Boxer doesn't have zero chance. Generally speaking it's a fight and anything can happen, but the Boxer's chances are VERY slim. Especially against an elite fighter.
     
  13. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no way in a mma match i dont think the shoulder roll will work with 4ounce gloves.
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol::patsch Two really really good MMA fighters beating complete cans who's no one has ever heard of ever in a boxing match is comparable to a 40-50 year old shot to pieces, grossly over weight Mercer knocking former UFC Heavyweight champion out in MMA? We don't need to get stupid just to keep to our agenda's here now chaps. Smarten up.
     
  15. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    There's some truth to that. However with MMA guys evolving the way they are right now, I wouldn't wanna be hit (which I have) with those 4 oz gloves. It still doesn't feel good. MMA fighter Melvin Guillard is considered a lower tier fighter, but his strikes are phenomenal. Mainly his punches. He has a Boxing backround, and his punches are sharp & fast. I'm not saying Guillard is better than Floyd technically (of course not), but he's more explosive.