Could Floyd Patterson replicate Joe Louis title reign?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Dec 1, 2024.

  1. WBARuinedBoxing

    WBARuinedBoxing New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2024
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    41
    If he somehow survives an aging but dangerous Schmeling, he probably lasts until he meets Abe Simon, or maybe Buddy Baer.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    16,223
    Likes Received:
    11,692
    I never pictured Abe Simon as one who would beat Patterson. Buddy Baer would be dangerous because of his size and reach advantages and punching power.
     
  3. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2018
    Messages:
    5,042
    Likes Received:
    9,725
    You could make Patterson, or another fighter, a favourite over every Louis opponent in an isolated title defence and still consider it extremely unlikely that they'd replicate Louis's reign.

    Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

    It's simply a case of understanding probability, which I'll over simplify in the interests of brevity - you could make a fighter a 90% favourite over each of Louis's title defence opponents in one-off fights. That's a heavy favourite for a world title fight. In that instance, the equation to calculate the probability of winning 25 x consecutive title defences is - (9/10)25 - which equals a mere 6%, to the nearest whole number.

    You'd need to consider them almost a 98% favourite in each individual fight, before the chances of them replicating Louis's 25 x successful title defence reign exceeded 50%.

    There is a reason no other fighter in the c.140-year history of our sport has 25 x successful, consecutive, lineal world title defences. It's because no other fighter in the history of the sport has been as far removed from the rest of the best fighters in the world, as Louis was, for as long as Louis was.
     
    Ney and InMemoryofJakeLamotta like this.
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,429
    Likes Received:
    9,408
    I'm not sure he beats Schmeling, Farr, Lewis, Godoy, Conn or Walcott ... Buddy Baer as well ...
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    16,223
    Likes Received:
    11,692
    I think he’d have the best chances against Godoy and Farr.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,429
    Likes Received:
    9,408
    He might beat all but I’m not sure.
     
  7. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2024
    Messages:
    8,202
    Likes Received:
    10,674
    Add to that equation the fighter who is considered a 90% chance to win is that much more likely to show up out of shape.
     
    Pedro_El_Chef and Greg Price99 like this.