Could Fritzi Zivic @ his best

PS...I grew up in Boston and endured all the heartbraking moments with the Red Sox...as well as with the Patriots and the Bruins. The young fans in Boston today are spoiled by all the success these teams now enjoy. They weren't around in those lean years of yesterday...Just like todays fight fans weren't around to see the greats of yesteryear....sigh!

 

floyd is all time great Fritzi Zivicwas a great fighter.

i think floyd would outbox him to a UD.

you sell mayweather very short alot

 

FOR A DAMN GOOD REASON ! I have seen most of the great fighters of the 1940s from FW ,LW and welterweights...These guys FOUGHT every 3 weeks or so, far,far tougher opponents than a 36 year old Mayweather with less fights in his entire career than a Harry Greb had in ONE YEAR, for crying out loud...
To imply for example a ball player batting 360 for a couple of months against a Ty Cobb who batted 367 over a 20 year career is analogous to you comparing a Floyd Mayweather to alltime greats as SRR, Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Kid Gavilan and others who fought hundreds of tough bouts avoiding no one, fighting every 3 weeks or so against tough experienced opponents that the boxing fans demanded...As I posted Mayweather with his
safety first shoulder roll would be overwhelmed by the above for sure...Do you think that at 130 pounds Mayweather could pull his cute but boring shoulder rolls for long against a Henry Armstrong or a Sandy Saddler ? These guys
would certainly not play the shoulder roll game, but rough him up and put him in deep waters in close Mayweather never experienced before...

 

Whoah, whoah amigo.


Tranquillo hombre. No neccesario. No possilblt Americaop.

 

Please, please, please, grow up and get a life. FMJ is a wonderful boxer, but he is not an all time anything.

This is an era of instant demand, from internet speed to fast food. Try to work the rest of it out for yourself.

If you can't I'm sure there will be some self promoting, cyber fvcking knobhead, with a smart sounding.com / org/ what the fvck ever that claims it can.

 

No comprend !

 

People act like Floyd would crumble when confronted with a fighter who played rough. Ask Victor Ortiz how Floyd reacts in that type of situation. Zivic was a damned good fighter with an accurate right hand; but he's not matching Floyd for speed and he's not throwing him off his game, even should he connect with the right and even if he starts to engage in extra-curricular activities.

Floyd UD...Competitve but clear.

 

Are you seriously comparing a fool like Victor Ortiz with Zivic?

 

I'm saying that Floyd doesn't crumble when pitted against a dirty fighter, and used Ortiz as an example of that. Sounds like you're trying to compare Ortiz to Zivic, Foxy. You should know better than that.

(That said, Ortiz at his best probably isn't any worse than Cochrane, who somehow managed to lift the title off of Zivic. That version of Fritzie isn't coming close to beating Floyd.)

 

It is not at all unlikely that welterweight Mayweather would have lost to all three of them too, Senya, and lost worse.

 

It's weird and disturbing to be a New England sports fan without angst. For decades after the late 1950s, it was virtually a religious belief that the Celtics would inevitably prevail while the Red Sox failed yet again. During lean times for Boston sports teams, Marciano and Hagler stepped in, while Clarence DeMar, Bill Rodgers and other New Englanders dominated the Boston Marathon.

And now the accusations that the Red Sox are the new Yankees are reminiscent of old cries that the Yankees were the new Red Sox during the 1920s, this after all the "Break up the Red Sox!" demands following the 1918 season. What goes around comes around, I guess. Looks like the Lakers might be ready to reclaim their old throne from the Celtics as the NBA franchise with the most basketball championships.

Billy Conn and Harry Greb may have also hailed from Pittsburgh, and Charley Burley was most certainly integral to Pittsburgh's rich boxing tradition, but when I think "Steel City" of early 20th Century industrial yore, it's Fritzie Zivic which comes to my mind first in pugilism, not somebody handsomely glamorous, blazingly fast, or elegant in the ring, but hardscrabble, like this:

www.hardcoreboxing.net/FritziepartII/OldFritzie1ArticleBottom.jpg

 

mayweather at 147 beats henry and zivic

 

Beat a prime Henry Armstrong ? Oh My !!!!!!

 

Fixed.

 

This is really quite simple.

Personally I don't give a **** about results unless they are blatant robberies. However there is a school of thought that JLC beat FMJ in their first fight.

If people think that was pressure, they wouldn't even begin to dream what the likes of Armstrong, and Zivic could bring.