Could Fury have beaten prime Wladimir?

Let's not forget it wasn't a prime Fury either I dare say. It's always going to be a close and dull fight regardless.

 

Klitschko wasn't himself the night he lost to Fury.

Wlad had personal problem's with his girlfriend's postpartum depression so he wasn't completely focused. The Furys played some dirty games before the fight, removing the padding from the ring floor to make it tougher on Wlad's old legs, and making Wlad re-wrap his hands because Fury Sr was late showing up to observe.

Despite Wlad being two years older at age 41, Joshua fought a better, more focused version of Wlad. And Joshua won impressively and deservedly, while Fury fought like a coward.

 

Yes , Fury wasn't prime either. He was young and inexperienced , both in terms of skill and in preparation. Meaning he was coming into camps overweight and boiling down. That often left him weak back then. His punches weren't as strong as they are now.

Since committing to a better and healthier lifestyle , and training consistently , he is heavier but also stronger and leaner . He is also hitting a lot harder by being in better physical condition.

Any Wlad would probably crumble against the Fury that ran trough Wilder like a wrecking ball.

 

Yep.. early mid 30s you're definitely going g to be on the decline.. People like to use the Foreman example and yes Foreman did well in his comeback but this was heavilh down to his pure toughness, chin, come forwardness etc. His style made it somewhat possible but his case is a rare example, once those feet, reflexes, and timing go you're a knockout waiting to happen

 

Foreman got out the first time at a young age at 28 and he didn't take as much damage as other boxers because of his style.

He was also a unique case as he had freakish power and durability.

Boxing is a young man's sport ... Once you pass a certain point, usually in your 30s, your athleticism and skills naturally erode ... Power and durability seem to leave at the end ...

Even though Wlad didn't have the best competition the fact he stayed on top into his late 30s proves him to be an ATG

 

Absolute nonsense that Wlad couldn’t of ever coped with Fury’s movement. People forgot how awful Klitschko looked in his fight prior to Fury. He couldn’t let his right hand go against Bryant Jennings to such an extent that he was asked in the post fight interview if he’d broken it? No he was just an ageing and declining fighter getting ripe for the taking. I really like Fury but he fought a garbage version of Wlad that night. Could Fury have beaten a prime Klitschko that night in Germany I’d say no.

 

Hogwartz. . The Wlad that fought Jennings was the same Wlad that drove his right hand straight through Pulev's head just 6 months earlier.

The reason he couldn't do the same to Jennings is because of styles. Pulev just stood there while Jennings was athletic and used the ring. The movement of Jennings is what made the difference. Wlad never look good against movers. Their style perplexed him.

For example Wlad couldn't let the right hand go against David Haye either. How many times was Haye nailed by a clean right hand or left hook? So little that Haye was never even hurt in that fight.

Or what about the time he produced the worst HW performance known to man against Sultan? Because Sultan had legs and gave him angles.. He was just ridiculously undersized to have any chance.
Pretty much all of WKs opponents were either way undersized or were non alethic plodders.

He never fought let alone beat anybody remotely good and big as Fury.

The signs he wouldn't be able to touch Fury were there when he fought Haye , Sultan and Williamson while he was bang in his prime.

 

Who cares, it would be a snoozefest no matter when they fight.

Either could win, but we all know everyone would fall asleep.

 

He himself said he would need around 10.
And he also said Fury would give him more trouble then Wilder or AJ.


To the thread subject:

We will never know. But fact is you can not delete what happen to Wlad agains Puritty, Sanders, Brewster, Peter and AJ.
Only in the Peter fight he was able to survive. He got stopped 4 times fair and square, only once he was able to win after being knocked down.

Fury was already knocked down many times (Peikic, Cunningham, Wilder 2 times) and was in much troube against McDermont I and Chisora I.

When Fury was in trouble, he always found a way out.
Wlad was 5 times in real trouble, and only 1 time he found a way out.



When two Boxer´s have a smilar skill level, it comes to the one with more guts and ability to recover from difficult situations. And i think only a damn Wlad fanboy or Fury hater can say Wlad has more guts or a better ability to overcome resistance.

 

Good post. I didn't bet on the fight, but going into it I did feel Fury was a very interesting challenge for Wlad because of his size and outboxing ability. That to me seemed a tough puzzle to solve for Wlad even without taking his age into account.

 

Ever since the 2005 loss to Brewster and the follow up near disaster against Peter, Wlad became an overall timid and overcautious fighter.

This would have netted the same result agaisnt Fury no matter when they fought.

A stark contrast to someone like Wilder who went out on his shield, fighting like a warrior until the bitter the end

 

Yes, pre Steward Wlad would have been a nightmare for Fury. Wlad was at his physical prime. Was not gun shy or cautious and still had speed and power.

 

I think an Older Wlad was a better Wlad to be honest. Prime Wlad was getting Koed by Brewster and Sanders. Tyson Fury against either of those versions wins.

 

It would have been 50-50 in a rematch even at Wlads age, if he were more aggressive as he was against Joshua, he would have beaten Fury in a rematch

Wlad took it TO Joshua. The Wlad that fought Fury wasn’t as bold or aggressive.