Could George Foreman make it undefeated through Larry Holmes title opponents?

Well technically Holmes did beat an ATG in Ali but I don't count it because of the condition Ali was in.

Foreman lost convincingly to Jimmy Young at age 28 he could definitely lose to a prime Witherspoon at age 34 after 14 title defences, he would also have alot of difficulty vs Williams 6'5 85 inch reach at age 36 after 19 title fights.

Taking into account Foreman only managed 5 title defences in his whole career.

 

It doesn’t matter that Foreman lost to Ali, & Holmes beat Ocasio around the same time in his reign. The fact is one proved he could go on a long run & the other didn’t. LOL.

 

Weaver, Witherspoon, achieved more than Young did and Cooney actually stopped Young although Young was past his prime then to be fair. Holmes also beat Ocasio who was coming off two wins over Young.

 

Leon? What has Leon (RIP) ever done to you for you to want to even consider a George Foreman vs Leon Spinks fight? If you want Leon to get absolutely destroyed inside 1 round, and badly hurt just shoot him. To answer your question. George’s over confidence would slip him up. Tubbs slaps him silly for W15 UD etc.

 

Ocasio beat Young twice who a year earlier had beaten Foreman let that sink in for a moment.

 

I stand corrected…Ocasio is on par with Ali.

 

Another fun fact about Ocasio he was the first fighter to take Lewis the distance.

 

George Foreman and Larry Holmes were both born in 1949 (about 10 months apart). So Foreman would've been roughly Larry's age when he faced all of them.

Ken Norton - Foreman demolishes Norton in their rematch (George won by KO2 first time)
Alfredo Evangelista - Foreman demolishes him
Ossie Ocasio - Foreman demolishes him
Mike Weaver - Foreman demolishes him (like the first Bonecrusher-Weaver fight)
Earnie Shavers - Foreman demolishes Earnie like Quarry did
Lorenzo Zanon - Foreman demolishes him
Leroy Jones - A punching bag George punches holes in.
Scott Ledoux - Foreman demolishes Ledoux in their rematch (George won by KO3 first time)
Muhammad Ali - Foreman gets his revenge, doesn't take it easy (like Larry did), permanently injures Ali
Trevor Berbick - Foreman does what Mercado and Tyson did to Berbick. Short night.
Leon Spinks - Face first Leon doesn't last one.
Renaldo Snipes - May give George problems because he was so awkward. So awkward and wild swinging. May be a banana peal. May be second Foreman-Lyle fight. But George wins.
Gerry Cooney - We saw this, too. Cooney is demolished. Can't take George's power.
Tex Cobb - Cosell walks out before the fight is over.
Lucien Rodriquez - Joe King Roman part 2 ... no chance
Tim Witherspoon - Resembles Witherspoon-Bonecrusher. Novice Tim is bombed out.
Scott Frank - We know what George always did to these types of guys.
Marvis Frazier - Poor Marvis. I don't even think Joe would let Marvis take this.
Bonecrusher Smith - Bonehugger won't engage with George. Too afraid. The shootout doesn't happen. Smith pees his pants and quits from a glancing blow.
David Bey - Bey has a panic attack. Wouldn't see five.
Carl Williams - Carl didn't have the chin for Weaver, Tyson, Morrison ... it ain't happening with George, either.
Michael Spinks - There would be no rematch. George would put Spinks down and close the show.

That takes us to George Foreman vs. Mike Tyson unification.

Would've been something to see if Iron Mike could unify the belts, like he did, or if George, at 39, could unify everything in 1988.

 

Styles make fights. Ocasio fought nothing like Young. Everyone at the time wanted to see Holmes-Young. That's why Jimmy got a rematch.

But Ocasio denied us that, just like Ossie would (in this scenario) deny everyone the Foreman-Young rematch.

However, Ossie isn't standing up to Foreman, let alone winning.

 

Just going off the odds of winning fights in succession, he probably would’ve lost by the time he reached Berbick. Weaver, Shavers, LeDoux (if Foreman gassed out like Wlad against Brewster), and Berbick would at least have some chance of winning. That’s more than enough to give Foreman his first L.

 

Ledoux would have no chance. They already fought. We saw it. There's nothing in Foreman-Ledoux 1 that says George LOSES to Scott Ledoux.

Berbick lost rounds to the corpse of Ali. Trevor wasn't as good when he fought Holmes as he'd eventually become a couple years into the 80s.

Forget Weaver and Shavers. They didn't have the chins for it.

I loved the Holmes-Weaver fight. But Holmes was sick as a dog and wasn't getting paid that night. And he still floored Weaver and was way up when it was stopped.

 

What odds on average would you give one of the first ten opponents of winning (chosen at random)? And it’s not zero.

 

While not during his title run, Holmes fought a prime Tyson and a prime Holyfield, and had to do it as an old man. Neither seemed to cause a mental breakdown. Although maybe having the built-in excuse of age helped avoid that issue?

 

That’s exactly what I think it is, there was nowhere near as much pressure on him at that point in contrast to when he was champion, everyone knew he wasn’t in his prime and he wouldn’t be judged much when he lost at that point, the same reason Foreman’s losses in the second half of his career didn’t affect him.

 

I never said Ocasio would beat Foreman I'm pointing out Foreman decisively lost to Young 8-4 and he was only 28 years old. So I think it's unrealistic Foreman can consistently beat ranked fighters in his mid 30s when he didn't do it in his comeback.

People are making all these fantasy scenarios for Foreman but the fact is he lost decisively twice in his physical prime and only managed 5 title defenses in his whole career. To suggest he can quadruple the amount of title defences compared to what he actually did in real time is pure fantasy.

Foreman only held on to the title for 3 defenses in his prime and when he won the world title again years later he never defended against one single top 10 ranked opponent and should've lost in his very first defense against Axel Schulz which was a total robbery.