Could Holmes Circ 1984 - 85, Have Beaten Wilder?

In his career, Wilder has not fought with such a technical boxer as Holmes. That's why I think Holmes still wins (even though he's past prime). On the other hand, Holmes' chin is tested against a puncher like Shavers (if we look at what Wilder's biggest asset is).

 

Awkward fight for an older Holmes. The question is even if he did catch him could he finish him off? Holmes ain't getting one punched.

 

Good points but i'm not fussed on Wilder being near the finisher Tyson is despite his one handed power. Tyson's finishing thrusts were lightning, vicious two handed assaults that rarely failed. Fury's been down 4 or so times and not finished.

Edit - it is older Holmes but still, the question is there i think.

 

A faded yet still dangerous Holmes has enough left to box Deontay's ears off. Although Larry will have to watch that right hand of Wilder's from first bell till last.

 

Good points made but cosigning that Holmes is durable and Wilder doesn't have the finishing capabilities anywhere close to Tyson, not even a past prime 90s one imho. Holmes would befuddle him jabbing his way to a UD n possible stoppage by a prime Holmes.

 

Wilder by stoppage.

Wilder's best punch is the straight right hand. Every time Holmes went down in his career, it began with the right hand - whether it was from Kevin Isaac, Earnie Shavers, Renaldo Snipes or Mike Tyson.

Wilder carries his punch until the end of the fight. Holmes would have to be on guard the entire time.

Wilder doesn't get hit with a lot of jabs. He keeps his range.

On the other hand, Larry feasted on guys who just put their gloves over their face and tried to get inside. He didn't like to fight boxers at range, especially later on. Carl Williams arguably beat him at range before Spinks did.

Wilder doesn't fight on the inside. He keeps his distance, and then strikes. Then he goes back out of range again.

Rarely mentioned, too, is Wilder is one of the most fit heavyweights in boxing history. Wilder is going to turn 38 in a month. WTF did Larry Holmes look like at 38?

Wilder against the relatively stiff and stationary Holmes of 1984-85 ... the fight ends in MINUTES.

It's not like Larry could fight backing up. It's not like he had any head movement at all in 1984-85. It's not like Holmes was faster or taller or stronger at 35 or 36 than Wilder.

Wilder at 37 ... gliding around the ring.

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Wilder in the gym the other day training for Joshua.

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Holmes outboxes the **** out of Wilder until rounds 8-10 or so, and then starts slowing down because of his age, and Wilder's shots taking their toll.

Wilder unleashes a wicked right that takes Holmes off his feet. Holmes rises only to be floored again by that ridiculous right and takes a nap.

 

Wilder doesn't have the finishing capabilities?

Wilder has among the best finishing capabilities of any heavyweight champion EVER. He knocked out everyone he's faced except in his entire career except for Tyson Fury, even though he's been outweighed by everyone he's faced (often by a lot) over the last 10 years.

Wilder doesn't have the finishing capabilities of Tyson? At 37/38, Mike Tyson couldn't even stop Danny Williams or Kevin McBride.

Honestly, boxing people who are still questioning Wilder's power 14 years into his pro career remind me of that lady in blue who finished last in that recent track meet.

Seriously. Catch up, already.

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Do you really think that Holmes would beat Wilder for 8-10 rounds, and that Wilder would survive? That Wilder has such a good chin?