Could Hopkins Attain ATG Top 10 p4p Status?

Not many would claim Hopkins lost to Wright. Didn't you score DLH over Mayweather the other day? To be honest i haven't watched the full fight but can't recall seeing many if any touting Oscar. I see Oscar congratulate Hop after the fight, maybe he's chasing a piece of 175 pie

 

I've never really done one.

 

No, but if I did a rough one, I reckon Charles would be around 9/10. Ahead of Moore, who probably gets in at around 16. :yikes


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I've never done one myself, i dont particularly like lists.

I dont remember if you have ever stated your numero uno, so go one give us your top three :good

 

Hopkins is the better fighter but not by all that much imo.

Personally I'd say the Jones loss was as close to Hopkins' peak as the Forrest loss was to Shane's peak. (Of course Jones was a much better fighter than Forrest).

As to numerous years unbeaten, Mosley went unbeaten from 1993 to 2002. Hopkins went unbeaten from 1993-2005.

Hopkins has a longer series of defences at 160 than Shane had at 135, but if we're talking meaningful title defenses, Hopkins hasn't had that many more. I mean, would it be more impressive if Shane hung around lightweight and gave a couple of rematches each to Demetrio Ceballos and Golden Johnson and eventually unified with a Cesar Bazan or a Paul Spadafora?

 

Yeah I had Oscar by a point. I know Ron Borges had Oscar winning, and since he plagiarises, he probably copied someone else's scorecard who had it for Oscar as well. That makes two at least

 

RJJ essentially decisioned Hopkins with one good hand. Bernard desperately needed to avenge that defeat.

Just as Barry Bonds would be a legitimate MLB HOFer without steroids, so too would B-Hop have been an ATG in the 15 round era. But I don't think he ever had a chance to reach top ten P4P status without avenging that loss to RJJ in impressive fashion. In earlier times, they would have had a series of matches to determine who was consistently better. He would also do very well to nail down a win over Jermain Taylor.

 

Hopkins lost against RJJ in his physical prime. He ducked RJJ in his prime

Mosley dominating at lightweight and jumping to welter to beat Delahoya twice is no small task and depending on the end to his career may put him on par with BHOPs.

 

Kessler and Chagaev are unproven,a win over Calzaghe would be impressive but unlikely,I just dont think B Hop is that good ,he shines in a small talent pool ,I dont rate Taylor too high ,he is much too passive ,and Tarver is nothing special .Hopkins best other wins were over men coming up in weight,he has dominated his division but ,they havent been much ,imo,Hopkins looks better than he is because there are so few decent figters his weight around.