Could Jim Jeffries as ,durable as he was ,walk through the punches of todays Super heavies ,like Lewis and the Klitschkos?
I don't believe he can, on the basis of two reasons. 1. He never really walked through punches of men from his own era. He did a great deal of holding, as well as fought men of much smaller size, therefore eliminating the need to just "walk through punches" 2. The fighters of today, may not be the best specimens of all time great heavies, but they are certainly big, and can pack a punch. Considering that Jeffries had his nose broken by a 160Lb man, I think it would be treacherous for him to be taking shots from fighters who were a built 240Lbs, and nearly 6'8" in height.
No. Several reasons - 1. Opponents are much larger. Super-middles don't compete at HW any more like they did in Jeffries' days. He'd be taking much more powerful punches from much larger, more durable, stronger men. 2. Technique has changed immensely. Jeffries' defence is obsolete now, he'd get DQ'd if he tried to do his mauling tactics. He'd be damn near unable to defend himself under modern rules. 3. Goes with the above, referees have changed a great deal since ~1900. In addition to taking alot more punishment due to his nonexistant defence (under modern rules), he'd be stopped relatively quickly by a modern referee. No referee is going to let him just wade in and get brutalized for too long.
Watch Vitaliy Klitschko vs fat untrained Corrie Sanders. I've no doubt Jeffries was at very least as durable as Sanders.
That 168 Pound Man If Your Talkin About Fitz Was A (tremendous Power Puncher) As I Have Disclosed Before There Our Very Few,but However There Is A Few Men At Lower Weight That Carry The Punch Of Todays Chubby Undertrained Heavys.it Just Depends On The Mans Individual Power After Round About 160 To180
Would be foolish to try,his career as short as it was back then would last about 15 fights today if that was his main tactic
Are you all kidding? Hell yes he could take them. He took punches from the best and strongest punchers of his era and didn't go down (until the comeback after a 6 year layoff - which doesn't count). He fought in freaking 20 and 25 round fights and never went down, fighting with 5-ounce gloves. He walked around at 240 pounds and would not have trained down in weight in a fight today because he'd only be going 12 rounds, not 25, so he'd keep more of his flesh on. Plus, his pace would be faster and he'd grab less because he wouldn't have to pace himself for a 25 rounder. Trust me, Jeff could take 'em.
What, you mean those of a 38 year old supermiddleweight? Ruiz walked through Jones' shots easier than Jeffries went through Fitz; he was layed out cold in 19 seconds by Tua.
No, he didnt take the shots of the bigest shots of the best guys of his era. It may not be easy to admit but every champs reign before the colour line was diminished has a huge question mark over it and should be taken with a pinch of salt, this includes pretty much everyone, Jeffries, Sullivan, Corbett, Burns, Dempsey, Tunney, Baer...i refuse to beleive these guys are great heavyweights. Johnson should only be considered great due to his pre-title record, because he's defences as a whole were against uninspiring smaller, white competition. Id pick nearlly every post Louis champion to beat the pre louis champions (with the exception of a few), mainly becaus the best fighters were fighting the best fighters, not White americans fighting other white Americans.
With all due respect to James Jeffries, I can't see him as having the skill or athleticism to compete with very many champions of the second half of the 20th century. He is, in my book, the very best of the old world fighters from Sullivan leading right up to perhaps Dempsey. Once we start getting into eras where men like Louis, Walcott, and Marciano started showing up, however I think he'd start to look like he was out of his league. Not only was Jeffries overly accustomed to facing men who were much smaller, he also rarely if ever fought boxers who could stick, move, use both lower and upper body movement, etc. I think Walcott would take him apart personally. Jeffries had a notoriously weak defense. He held his right hand way down at his side, and stuck his chin out. As a result, he had his nose broken on three different occasions in 20 pro fights. This is a bad recipe for havock going in against punchers and boxers of later time periods.
at 38 year old Fitz was the HW champ and Knocked Corbett out with a body shot and after the 2 Jeffries fights one in which he removed the adding from his gloves when on to win the Lightheavy title so i would say age wasnt realy a factor for Fitz Jeffries in his day was about the sma e sze a modorn HW just think what he would be like Today if he was born in the 80's and got all the nutreants and Training Techniques of modorn day sciance I bet he would be about 6'5'' and around the same size in waight as wlad
Irrelevant. Don't you think it's pretty embarrassing that people think he can take a big, proven heavyweight puncher's shot when the best puncher he faced was a 38 year old middleweight, who also messed his face up bad?
the best Puncher He fced was Choynski who at one point in the fight punch Jeffries in the mouth and Pushed his lip between his teeth and his cornor men had to cut his lip to get it out and still fought 20 rounds like that while as Johnson was KOed in 3 by a faded Choynski but still you got to give the guy modorn Nutrition, training, and Techniqe befor considering stuff like this so that would lead him to be much taller than he was and a much better build for a HW fighter even if he was tha same size today as he was back then with modorn Tech he could whipe the floor with these so called better fighers that are out there today who can only fight 6 rounds at a ood pace